iPhone 15 Wireless Charging Problems in BMW (can break the iPhone's NFC Chip)

[Cruise'n]

Have a Android Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra and gets so hot can barely touch.

BMW bad design and should have airflow.

Pad cooling.
Vent grooves
Something.

But unlike Apple didn't blow up.

[Tejas1836]

Samsung LOL

[Condorll]

Originally Posted by Cruise'n

Can cooL a $2 can of coke

Will cooK a $2000 mobile phone.

Not surprised as all.

With a 4 day old X5 M60i after two days I've stopped using the wireless charger for a Samsung S23

Cooked �� �� my phone shut down, crashed ID8.5 and too hot to handle, even though can cool a drink centimetres away in the heated/chilled cup holders.

A big fail.
A fan?
A duct?
A heat exchanger?
Surely something...

I have a 2023 X5 xDrive 40i since early Feb '23. No issues charging a Samsung S8 from February to August then got a Samsung 23+ in August, no issues to date. I use the wireless charger every day. I do have a case on the 23+.

[Cruise'n]

With or Without a case.

Drive for 3 hours and can barely touch the phone.
Likely a X5 Lci 2024 issue.

But the can of drink directly next to it is being cooked and is nice and cold

[B58-M340iX]

I know wireless is convenient, but cable charging is much more efficient and charges significantly faster. I've posted this several times, but I do wonder why people want to use wireless charging given the heat, slow charging, etc.

[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by B58-M340iX

I know wireless is convenient, but cable charging is much more efficient and charges significantly faster. I've posted this several times, but I do wonder why people want to use wireless charging given the heat, slow charging, etc.

I wonder why one needs to charge their phone in the vehicle at all, unless it is an old phone with bad battery life. Mine stays in my pocket and I charge it at the end of the day.

[OUGrad05]

I've only used my wireless charger on my iPhone 15 pro max, once...that was last night. The phone was hot but functioning when we got to the restaurant. How do I know if I've got this problem? Do I need to try Apple Pay somewhere?

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by Tejas1836

I wonder why one needs to charge their phone in the vehicle at all, unless it is an old phone with bad battery life. Mine stays in my pocket and I charge it at the end of the day.

I go on longer drives so charging is helpful to ensure the phone has enough power to last during the drive since I’m using it for navigation (which uses more juice) and then having enough power left for the rest of the day. While wireless charging isn’t a requirement, it makes things less cluttered since I end up needing to put the phone tethered to the charging cable in the passenger seat.

[G80indy]

Bottom line is…. They should never have made wireless charging a feature if it’s not safe and reliable

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by rons e92

Does the digital key still work?

I think you’re referring to the key card which is not the same thing as digital key. The key card will not work if you disconnect the wireless charging tray; however your actual digital keys have nothing to do with it, so they will work just fine.

[realdah]

Originally Posted by OUGrad05

I've only used my wireless charger on my iPhone 15 pro max, once...that was last night. The phone was hot but functioning when we got to the restaurant. How do I know if I've got this problem? Do I need to try Apple Pay somewhere?

No need, if something wrong with NFC, you will get some messages saying "Apple Pay is not available" or something else, then digital key plus won't work neither, all credit cards, car digital keys are invalid and you will have to remove them all, however then you can't add any of them back.

I got iphone 15 plus first day, and after few days the issue happened, fortunately it is within return window so I just returned it to apple store.

Right now, I will wait until this issue is 100% resolved before I will order a new one.


BTW, my iphone 12 pro has no issue charging inside my LCI since this May.

[rons e92]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

I think you’re referring to the key card which is not the same thing as digital key. The key card will not work if you disconnect the wireless charging tray; however your actual digital keys have nothing to do with it, so they will work just fine.

I'm talking about the digital key. The one that's I have on my iPhone. Not the card or the fobs.

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by rons e92

I'm talking about the digital key. The one that's I have on my iPhone. Not the card or the fobs.

They are not related at all, so you will be fine disconnecting the wireless charging tray.

BTW, just in case you’re not aware, if you use an iPhone you can still unlock and start your vehicle even with a completely dead iPhone battery. The NFC chip will work independently regardless of the battery status. I tested this again last week in my vehicle opened upon approach just like it normally would.

[rons e92]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

They are not related at all, so you will be fine disconnecting the wireless charging tray.

BTW, just in case you’re not aware, if you use an iPhone you can still unlock and start your vehicle even with a completely dead iPhone battery. The NFC chip will work independently regardless of the battery status. I tested this again last week in my vehicle opened upon approach just like it normally would.

Thanks. So just to confirm, NFC reader has a different power source from the wireless charger?

[VirtualGuitars]

Yes, there is a little reserve leftover for the NFC chip to operate. It doesn’t take much. Think of it like a toll tag in your vehicle. Obviously, it would not be ideal to let your phone go completely dead, but you will still be OK to get home.

[cat3dual]

Just back from the Apple Store for my 3rd warranty replacement for the iPhone 15 Pro Max. I was dubious the wireless charger in my 50e could be damaging the NFC sensor used for digital key and Apple Pay. However, this time, the Apple Genius asked me specifically if I had a BMW and used the wireless charger. They replaced the phone again as they're not doing repairs yet on the 15s. He advised to not use the wireless charger as there is now a confirmed issue. He speculated there may end up being a disagreement between Apple and BMW over who is at fault. If Apple accepts responsibility, then there will be a phone fix. If they successfully blame BMW, not sure what the outcome will be. My iPhone SE 3rd Gen charged beautifully on the 50e wireless charger for two months with no issues. Even the 15 Pro Max charged fine and never got hot. So, it seems to me Apple changed something with the NFC sensor or the device design that made it less robust and vulnerable. I will now not be using the wireless charging pad until the issue is fixed or I get a different phone. I'll miss the compensator as it really helped when in the airport parking garage to maintain signal, but it's not worth the hassle and I doubt Apple will continue to be content replacing my phones every week. Word to the wise, hold off on getting an iPhone 15 series if you want to use the wireless charger in the vehicle and if you already have one, DON'T USE THE WIRELESS CHARGER!

[ramparts]

It’s madness really there hasn’t at least been some sort of PSA from at least one , both or joint of them.

At least warning people saying , there may be an issue we don’t know , but from the Time being please refrain from using wireless charging until we can confirm

[G80indy]

Both companies, however, love to report their earnings per quarter don’t they

[RichTimpa]

So does anyone know what specific BMW’s are causing the problem on burning up the nfc chip.
I have a 2021 x5 45e and am wondering if anyone has had a problem with that make an model on a iPhone 15 pro max.

[Joralemon st.]

Didn't  release a software update to address this?..

[ramparts]

Originally Posted by Joralemon st.

Didn't  release a software update to address this?..

No, that update was to address overheating in certain apps ( that were using private apis that they shouldn’t have had access to ….. )

[Tejas1836]

I haven't tried the BMW Qi charger but the Qi charger we have at home has not caused any problems, iirc 10 watts, and I charge every evening with the Magsafe charger at 15 watts- iPhone 15 Pro. I haven't read of any Magsafe or at home Qi charger bricking of phones.