It's Official! e92 335i Sedan SOP September 1st!!

Dawg Nuts · 06-06-2006, 06:06 PM

I was in talking with my BMW rep today and casually asked him about SOP for E92 335 which he stated was happening now or will be very shortly, (which I knew was true) then said to him, "well what about the 335 sedan?" "Isn't that coming out towards the end of the year?" He then grabbed his production list, and sure enough, it listed E90 335 SOP September 1, 2006. I realize there has been no "Official" annoucement of the E90 335 but you have to believe BMW is waiting until the very end of production of E90 330i to make any official announcement so they can maximize sales and not have everyone wait for the E90 335 (which you know most would). My rep also stated that he didn't think pricing on E90 335 would be much more the E90 330i, maybe $1500 - $2000, because as he said, "there is too much competition in the sport sedan market and BMW doesn't want to lose any market share." So there you go, believe what you want, and say E90 335 won't come out until next year, but I know what I saw and it clearly said SOP 9/1/06.

ALPINE6SPD · 06-06-2006, 06:09 PM

like I said 2 months ago

Greeney · 06-06-2006, 06:35 PM

Hahaha, Awesome!!!!!

Asiann · 06-06-2006, 06:46 PM

So many leaks as far as when it will come out and doesn't surprise me about the Sep prod. Good info anyway!

gohawks23 · 06-06-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawg Nuts

I was in talking with my BMW rep today and casually asked him about SOP for E92 335 which he stated was happening now or will be very shortly, (which I knew was true) then said to him, "well what about the 335 sedan?" "Isn't that coming out towards the end of the year?" He then grabbed his production list, and sure enough, it listed E90 335 SOP September 1, 2006. I realize there has been no "Official" annoucement of the E90 335 but you have to believe BMW is waiting until the very end of production of E90 330i to make any official announcement so they can maximize sales and not have everyone wait for the E90 335 (which you know most would). My rep also stated that he didn't think pricing on E90 335 would be much more the E90 330i, maybe $1500 - $2000, because as he said, "there is too much competition in the sport sedan market and BMW doesn't want to lose any market share." So there you go, believe what you want, and say E90 335 won't come out until next year, but I know what I saw and it clearly said SOP 9/1/06.

Not to toot my own horn but I knew that and made this post LAST November...and have been bashed by a lot of people since...

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=118567

BenMW · 06-06-2006, 07:01 PM

Hey greginaz1(or anyone one else) what about the 335xi? E90 and E92 any dates on those?

gohawks23 · 06-06-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BenMW

Hey greginaz1(or anyone one else) what about the 335xi? E90 and E92 any dates on those?

The latest xi info I have shows SOP of March for the sedan and Q4'07 for the coupe.

THE JEDI · 06-06-2006, 07:21 PM

Sorry but the new coupe will start production in June..:rocks: ..for Sep deliveries......in other words the party has begun

e90fan1234 · 06-06-2006, 07:35 PM

I wanna see! I wonder when we'll get confirmation from BMWNA? I also wonder if we'll get CF trim as an option?

Dukenole · 06-06-2006, 07:41 PM

Some questions to ask your inside source:

1. Will the 335i replace the 330i or be in addition to the 330i?

If replacement and only $1500-2000 more: Why would BMW sell a 335i sedan for way less than the 335i coupe, which has been reported to be priced above $40k? The 330i makes up a large % of BMW sales. Why would they replace the engine of this model with an engine with twin turbos, which are inherently less reliable?

If in addition to the 330i: why would anybody in their right mind want to buy the 330i if for a couple of grand more they can get a car with 45 more HP?

I think it will be fascinating to see how BMW rolls out the 328i and 335i and what they will do with the 325i and 330i so that one doesn't canibalize the sales of the other and also doesn't push prices out of the each of most buyers.

RichReg · 06-06-2006, 07:57 PM

They are going to replace the 330 with the 335 and therefore, since the general public doesn't
really know this yet, most of them that are in the market for a 3 Series will just carry on as usual.

Dawg Nuts · 06-06-2006, 07:59 PM

330i & 325i are going to be replaced with 328 & 335. Just like with the coupes. And you're right, no one will want a 330i once 335 is announced, that's why BMW is dragging ass on any official announcement.

JSpira · 06-06-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by THE JEDI

Sorry but the new coupe will start production in June..:rocks: ..for Sep deliveries......in other words the party has begun

What is your "sorry" about - if it's referencing Greg's post (you failed to quote a specific post so it's very unclear), then your info is wrong as Greg's is 100% correct and matches the information I have been given as well.

Dukenole · 06-06-2006, 08:11 PM

So you are saying that for the first time in the history of BMW that a model will last only one model year? The 335i coupe is reported to be priced around $41-42K, so the sedan will be priced at least as much. That means that there will be about a $9K gap b/w the 325i and the 335i sedan. The majority of 3 series sales already goes to the 325i. With this huge of a gap in price and I think an overwhelming majority of people will settle for a 325i.

I think there's a lot of wishful thinking on the price of the 335i. My guess is that there will be 335i sedan, but it will not replace the 330i. The 325i and 330i will stay-- perhaps one or the other will get replaced by a 328i sedan in a year or two-- and the 335i sedan will be priced much higher than these other cars, around $5-6k more, a base sticker around $42k.

Dukenole · 06-06-2006, 08:13 PM

Dawgnuts, now you're suggesting that a 328i sedan will be out this fall? That's the first I've heard of it. Where you gettin' this from?

JSpira · 06-06-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dukenole

So you are saying that for the first time in the history of BMW that a model will last only one model year? The 335i coupe is reported to be priced around $41-42K, so the sedan will be priced at least as much. That means that there will be about a $9K gap b/w the 325i and the 335i sedan. .

No, there won't be, since there won't be a 325i sedan. It will be replaced by the 328i sedan.

Agni · 06-06-2006, 08:19 PM

Is the 328i confirmed to be comming in sept?

Good thing i waited

stressdoc · 06-06-2006, 08:20 PM

Dukenole, where have have you been hiding? It seems like all we have been writing about since last fall is the change to 328/335 E90. The sedan (E90) will be priced less than the coupe (E92), around 37.9k according to most informed sources. We will know soon enough.

RichReg · 06-06-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dukenole

So you are saying that for the first time in the history of BMW that a model will last only one model year?

Well, when all is said & done, it will actually be about 18 months of '06 production prior to the change. It has been done before but, what was usually done was that a new model like the E90 was introduced in September. Then the following model year would be shortened by 6 months, and THEN, after 1 full model year + 1 shortened model year had elapsed, a new/revised engine would show up. This time they did it a little differently.

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Originally Posted by Dukenole

The 335i coupe is reported to be priced around $41-42K, so the sedan will be priced at least as much. That means that there will be about a $9K gap b/w the 325i and the 335i sedan.

Only if the car mags guesses are accurate. The ordering guide posted by Greg shows the 328/335 Coupe to be set up for ordering just like the 325/330 Sedans. So it would appear that any price changes/increases will be solely due to the engine.

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Originally Posted by Dukenole

I think there's a lot of wishful thinking on the price of the 335i. My guess is that there will be 335i sedan, but it will not replace the 330i. The 325i and 330i will stay-- perhaps one or the other will get replaced by a 328i sedan in a year or two-- and the 335i sedan will be priced much higher than these other cars, around $5-6k more, a base sticker around $42k.

I was hoping that the 335 would be an addition as well but.....doesn't look that way.

Dukenole · 06-06-2006, 08:24 PM

The 328i engine produces 230 HP, only 25 less than the 330i. BMW has reported that the 328i coupe does 0-60 in 6.2 seconds, only 0.1 second slower than the 6.1 0-60 produced by the 330i, according to BMW. Wouldn't that make these two cars very similar to each other? Why would anyone want to buy a 330i when they can get essentially the same car for several thousand dollars less? I hear this argument already being made between the 325i and the 330i. This would be even more the case if the 328i were to replace the 325i.

akhbhaat · 06-06-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dukenole

So you are saying that for the first time in the history of BMW that a model will last only one model year?

The 325 and 330 will live on through the 328, which is nearly identical to both. The only changes are the badge and a bit of engine tweaking.

And there have been incidences of single model year production before - most recently, the E46 323Ci and 328Ci were only produced for a single model year (2000).

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The 335i coupe is reported to be priced around $41-42K, so the sedan will be priced at least as much. That means that there will be about a $9K gap b/w the 325i and the 335i sedan. The majority of 3 series sales already goes to the 325i. With this huge of a gap in price and I think an overwhelming majority of people will settle for a 325i.

The sedan has traditionally been cheaper than the coupe, so it isn't going to be "at least as much" as $41-42k (which, by the way, are NOT the confirmed prices for the 335i coupe - nobody yet knows for certain...there's just been a lot of speculation based on the PCS brochure which we already know to contain a number of inaccuracies). The gap between bottom and top model should be little more than it already is.

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I think there's a lot of wishful thinking on the price of the 335i. My guess is that there will be 335i sedan, but it will not replace the 330i. The 325i and 330i will stay-- perhaps one or the other will get replaced by a 328i sedan in a year or two-- and the 335i sedan will be priced much higher than these other cars, around $5-6k more, a base sticker around $42k.

You don't have to guess at this point. There are people both here and on other boards - BMW employees - with official production sheets showing only the 328i and 335i for coupe AND sedan. Take that for what it's worth.

Dukenole · 06-06-2006, 08:31 PM

Stressdoc, I'm new to the board. Got my 330i 5 weeks ago and have been enjoying the hell out of it.

So a car with 4 doors will be priced less that a car with two doors? Can you explain the logic behind that, sir. And backing it up with an example or two of precedence where BMW has used this pricing strategy in the past would go a long way towards convincing me.

By the way, e90speed, who has a well-deserved reputation on this board, has pointed out that the 330i remains in Europe and SA after the 335i is introduced. Why would they keep the car there but remove it from the US market?

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Dawg Nuts First Lieutenant 8 Rep 315 Posts Drives: 2007 335 E90 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E90 335 [0.00] 2004 X5 [0.00]	It's Official! e92 335i Sedan SOP September 1st!! I was in talking with my BMW rep today and casually asked him about SOP for E92 335 which he stated was happening now or will be very shortly, (which I knew was true) then said to him, "well what about the 335 sedan?" "Isn't that coming out towards the end of the year?" He then grabbed his production list, and sure enough, it listed E90 335 SOP September 1, 2006. I realize there has been no "Official" annoucement of the E90 335 but you have to believe BMW is waiting until the very end of production of E90 330i to make any official announcement so they can maximize sales and not have everyone wait for the E90 335 (which you know most would). My rep also stated that he didn't think pricing on E90 335 would be much more the E90 330i, maybe $1500 - $2000, because as he said, "there is too much competition in the sport sedan market and BMW doesn't want to lose any market share." So there you go, believe what you want, and say E90 335 won't come out until next year, but I know what I saw and it clearly said SOP 9/1/06.
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THE JEDI Major 123 Rep 1,461 Posts Drives: 2005 Z4 2.5i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: JAPAN, Okinawa iTrader: (0)	Sorry but the new coupe will start production in June..:rocks: ..for Sep deliveries......in other words the party has begun
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e90fan1234 Private 4 Rep 66 Posts Drives: 2004 E-46 325i Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vancouver, WA iTrader: (0)	I wanna see! I wonder when we'll get confirmation from BMWNA? I also wonder if we'll get CF trim as an option?
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Dukenole Private First Class 8 Rep 107 Posts Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA iTrader: (0)	Some questions to ask your inside source: 1. Will the 335i replace the 330i or be in addition to the 330i? If replacement and only $1500-2000 more: Why would BMW sell a 335i sedan for way less than the 335i coupe, which has been reported to be priced above $40k? The 330i makes up a large % of BMW sales. Why would they replace the engine of this model with an engine with twin turbos, which are inherently less reliable? If in addition to the 330i: why would anybody in their right mind want to buy the 330i if for a couple of grand more they can get a car with 45 more HP? I think it will be fascinating to see how BMW rolls out the 328i and 335i and what they will do with the 325i and 330i so that one doesn't canibalize the sales of the other and also doesn't push prices out of the each of most buyers.
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RichReg Colonel 121 Rep 2,099 Posts Drives: 2015 435Xi GC & 2000 323Ci. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	They are going to replace the 330 with the 335 and therefore, since the general public doesn't really know this yet, most of them that are in the market for a 3 Series will just carry on as usual.
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Dawg Nuts First Lieutenant 8 Rep 315 Posts Drives: 2007 335 E90 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E90 335 [0.00] 2004 X5 [0.00]	330i & 325i are going to be replaced with 328 & 335. Just like with the coupes. And you're right, no one will want a 330i once 335 is announced, that's why BMW is dragging ass on any official announcement.
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Dukenole Private First Class 8 Rep 107 Posts Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA iTrader: (0)	So you are saying that for the first time in the history of BMW that a model will last only one model year? The 335i coupe is reported to be priced around $41-42K, so the sedan will be priced at least as much. That means that there will be about a $9K gap b/w the 325i and the 335i sedan. The majority of 3 series sales already goes to the 325i. With this huge of a gap in price and I think an overwhelming majority of people will settle for a 325i. I think there's a lot of wishful thinking on the price of the 335i. My guess is that there will be 335i sedan, but it will not replace the 330i. The 325i and 330i will stay-- perhaps one or the other will get replaced by a 328i sedan in a year or two-- and the 335i sedan will be priced much higher than these other cars, around $5-6k more, a base sticker around $42k.
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Dukenole Private First Class 8 Rep 107 Posts Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA iTrader: (0)	Dawgnuts, now you're suggesting that a 328i sedan will be out this fall? That's the first I've heard of it. Where you gettin' this from?
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stressdoc Moderator 618 Rep 10,855 Posts Drives: BMW i8; Toy 4runner TRD pro Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waco TX iTrader: (0)	Dukenole, where have have you been hiding? It seems like all we have been writing about since last fall is the change to 328/335 E90. The sedan (E90) will be priced less than the coupe (E92), around 37.9k according to most informed sources. We will know soon enough.
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Dukenole Private First Class 8 Rep 107 Posts Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA iTrader: (0)	The 328i engine produces 230 HP, only 25 less than the 330i. BMW has reported that the 328i coupe does 0-60 in 6.2 seconds, only 0.1 second slower than the 6.1 0-60 produced by the 330i, according to BMW. Wouldn't that make these two cars very similar to each other? Why would anyone want to buy a 330i when they can get essentially the same car for several thousand dollars less? I hear this argument already being made between the 325i and the 330i. This would be even more the case if the 328i were to replace the 325i.
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Dukenole Private First Class 8 Rep 107 Posts Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA iTrader: (0)	Stressdoc, I'm new to the board. Got my 330i 5 weeks ago and have been enjoying the hell out of it. So a car with 4 doors will be priced less that a car with two doors? Can you explain the logic behind that, sir. And backing it up with an example or two of precedence where BMW has used this pricing strategy in the past would go a long way towards convincing me. By the way, e90speed, who has a well-deserved reputation on this board, has pointed out that the 330i remains in Europe and SA after the 335i is introduced. Why would they keep the car there but remove it from the US market?
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