Cheap Interior - Shame on you BMW!

[Moopai]

I was watching last night a full review (interior exterior) of the G90, the guy was bringing the camera real close inside/out to show the details. The door panels looked unbelievably cheap like plastic or fake leather. The seat have zero design with the leather pretty flat front and back especially the back ones they look shitty... I remembered a few weeks ago when my car was in service, I walked over to the show room and was looking at a 530 or M60 (I cannot remember) which will have the same door panels as this M5, it looked cheap and when I closed the door, they sounded cheaper and lightweight especially since they don't have soft closing.

Shame on you BMW for delivering the seventh generation M5 with such low quality under the umbrella of being nature friendly. Honestly I have no idea how the current M5 owners are going to accept this cheap car. I look at the different design and curves of the current seats of the M5, 7 & 8 series and look back at yesterday's video and shake my head.

Honestly in a couple of years when I'm due to upgrade my M850GC, I'm seriously considering after driving BMW 5, 7 and 8 for more than 2 decades to move to AMG. At least Mercedes is still making luxury cars that sound and drive great. That's the other thing with this new G90, whoever is going to get one, will need to invest in a real exhaust than the Micky-Mouse exhaust the G90 have... It's pretty sad for this company to turn into building a cheap low quality cars!

[whofelt]

I'm not surprised, quality of workmanship and innovation has dropped since the Covid Pandemic. As a matter of fact, based on my observations, NOTHING has been the same since the Covid pandemic, this includes cars, restaraunt service and pretty much everything else. We're still playing catch up in the US and due to the whole world pretty much shutting down, everyone is trying to make a dollar out of 15 cents and it shows.

I hope the world recovers at some point, but I'm not optimistic.

[UPSROD]

My 2013 E92 M3 has what I consider a very nice interior! That is the site that I am on! Buy one!

[Moopai]

I agree, the pandemic changed a lot of things but why BMW did not cheap out on the seven series but yet they cheaped out on the flagship of the M cars. To me, this has nothing to do with the pandemic.

Genesis that had been copying everyone and their mother for the past decade are bringing today more luxurious cars than the new BMWs.

This management decided to commoditize their cars and go cheap and expensive but they will pay for it dearly when clients starts to move to other brands. If I’m going to spend close to $200k on a BMW with cheap and low quality material, mine as well spend little more and get a Porsche Panamera or an AMG 63s.

I was really waiting for the 2025 M5 and thought this will be my next car but there is no way I will step down from the current M850GC to this! Again, I’m talking here about quality and luxury, I understand the true M cars drives completely different from my car but again I’m not tracking my cars so to me quality and luxury are a priority. I’m not giving up my current individual/extended Merino to the crap they put in the current M5. They even cheapened out the B&W, it’s not the diamond surround version that they have the 7 series or previous F90…

[BlkGS]

BMW will continue to cost cut until their sales suffer significantly, at which point it will be too late, the damage will be done.

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by Moopai

I was watching last night a full review (interior exterior) of the G90, the guy was bringing the camera real close inside/out to show the details. The door panels looked unbelievably cheap like plastic or fake leather. The seat have zero design with the leather pretty flat front and back especially the back ones they look shitty... I remembered a few weeks ago when my car was in service, I walked over to the show room and was looking at a 530 or M60 (I cannot remember) which will have the same door panels as this M5, it looked cheap and when I closed the door, they sounded cheaper and lightweight especially since they don't have soft closing.

Shame on you BMW for delivering the seventh generation M5 with such low quality under the umbrella of being nature friendly. Honestly I have no idea how the current M5 owners are going to accept this cheap car. I look at the different design and curves of the current seats of the M5, 7 & 8 series and look back at yesterday's video and shake my head.

Honestly in a couple of years when I'm due to upgrade my M850GC, I'm seriously considering after driving BMW 5, 7 and 8 for more than 2 decades to move to AMG. At least Mercedes is still making luxury cars that sound and drive great. That's the other thing with this new G90, whoever is going to get one, will need to invest in a real exhaust than the Micky-Mouse exhaust the G90 have... It's pretty sad for this company to turn into building a cheap low quality cars!

Will you be glad you have soft close doors in your Mercedes when it’s in the shop every other week?

[eliphil]

Geez I’m so happy I got the last of the M550s

[Mavus]

you shoul check out g45 x3 interior

[eliphil]

What a messed up world we live in, if you find something good hold on

[Moopai]

C'mon... Don't talk to me about German reliability whether it's Benz, BMW or Audi.

I'm not defending Benz or others but as to your comment about Benz in the shop every week, not sure where you are getting your data from my friend. In my family we have several Benz SUVs as well as a couple of AMGs and I can assure these cars don't visit the dealer unless it's service time (normal service). I have a few buddies that are driving E and S class again with no issues at all.

To be honest on one of the GLEs an alternator needed to be replaced but in the same time I can tell you I had that same issue years ago with my 545i where the dealer had to replace the alternator at 15k/km. This is hit and miss issues with almost every car. But I can also tell you that none of the Benz we have/had needed a transmission replacement but my 545i got the transmission replaced at 85k/km due to a torque converter issue three months after my warranty expired and after I decided to purchase the car after the lease. All BMW was willing to do is to cover half of the cost and this is after my dealer got involved and vouchered that the car was serviced at their dealership during and after the lease, my portion of the replacement cost was over $6K. So let's not get into the reliability of BMW as this is a sore subject for me. Unless you have the six-inline cylinder from BMW, you will have problems all the time. I've been driving the BMW V8 engines since 2001 when I purchased my first 7-series, went through a couple of 5s, another 7 and now an 8. I can probably right a book and sell it on Amazon as a Best-Seller about the issues that I experienced with each car accept the 8 (touch wood) and that's maybe because the car is still new with only 28K/km.

Again, my points here are not only about the soft closing doors, this is one of many options that BMW is cutting out of the new M5... For God's sake, they have Hankook tires on this car

But I have to say, I love it how people jump to defend BMW when one points out their faults and the wrong direction this company is taking...

Originally Posted by mjr24

Will you be glad you have soft close doors in your Mercedes when it’s in the shop every other week?

[TR930]

2016 F80 M3 6MT full individual interior leather FTW. Timeless beauty inside and out.

[reallymarkedup]

Originally Posted by Moopai

But I have to say, I love it how people jump to defend BMW when one points out their faults and the wrong direction this company is taking...

You literally just wrote a wall of text because of one comment about Benz, so maybe don't place yourself on too much higher of a pedestal.

[Moopai]

Here's another one missing the point of my original comment and defending BMW

Originally Posted by reallymarkedup

You literally just wrote a wall of text because of one comment about Benz, so maybe don't place yourself on too much higher of a pedestal.

[mjr24]

Because I have one now and have owned several high end models…..my AMT GT is a POS. I’ve had zero issues with BMW.

Your friends must have old S class models if they’ve had no issues.

Go buy what you want, no one really cares.

[Brandoch]

Gets grumpy about people on a BMW forum defending BMW'S.

[ShocknAwe]

Life is too short to drive cars you don't like.

Buy what you like.

[kudos]

Pretty sure BMW has always been known for engineering and just average interior.

[wtwo3]

I spent a bit of time in the 5 series at the dealership recently and it seemed fine to me. There are definitely some plastic bits but I didn't feel it was overly so. Overall build quality seemed great.

Mercedes on the other hand is complete trash right now. Panels aren't put together well, quality of materials is horrendous for the price they charge - the leather for example feels rough and cheap compared to the smooth and plush merino leather that BMW uses.

I think BMW currently makes the best interiors of any of the brands in this class. Audi has well built interiors but their interiors are a bit bland - lack of material/color choices for the interior and you end up with a boring (albeit well put together) interior. With BMW you have numerous leather color and trim type choices across much of their lineup.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by kudos

Pretty sure BMW has always been known for engineering and just average interior.

Yes. Don't go look at any old-school BMW from the 1970's thru the mid 1990's. Average.

[eliphil]

I love my M 550 interior 2022. My kid has an Audi and I got brand new loaner a6 and the interior was also really good. Huge screen integrated into the dash

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

BMW will continue to cost cut until their sales suffer significantly, at which point it will be too late, the damage will be done.

Mercedes has been cost cutting it for 25+ yrs....their brand reputation is still strong. Then there's Tesla build quality which has been dubious its entire existence.

Memories are short, younger generations don't know or care what Mercedes build quality was like in the 80s and 90s...they're more interested in brand image and technology. If BMW does the same I don't think there would be any consequences.

Unfortunate as I care a lot about the little details, but the modern consumer does not.

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

I spent a bit of time in the 5 series at the dealership recently and it seemed fine to me. There are definitely some plastic bits but I didn't feel it was overly so. Overall build quality seemed great.

Mercedes on the other hand is complete trash right now. Panels aren't put together well, quality of materials is horrendous for the price they charge - the leather for example feels rough and cheap compared to the smooth and plush merino leather that BMW uses.

I think BMW currently makes the best interiors of any of the brands in this class. Audi has well built interiors but their interiors are a bit bland - lack of material/color choices for the interior and you end up with a boring (albeit well put together) interior. With BMW you have numerous leather color and trim type choices across much of their lineup.

To add to that, save for a couple EVs Audi's portfolio is ancient.

Agreed BMW still has the best interiors in the business. Quality, ergonomics, etc. are a cut above the rest.