Tesla’s Tanking U.S. Sales And The World Of Automakers Falsifying Sales Numbers

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 01-01-2015, 11:32 PM

The auto journo world is in a tizzy because electric automaker Tesla refuses to post its car sales numbers on a monthly basis and the numbers they do divulge are suspicious as they are without detail and they vary widely from actual registration numbers.

...here are the facts as near as we can determine: Automotive News has estimated Tesla’s reported sales in the US through October were 19,530 units. Actual registration numbers for the same period were 11,731 cars, a full 40% below the sales figures. Further, these registration figures show Tesla off 22% from the same period in 2013. Other sources have pegged the drop off at 26% this year.

BMW269 · 01-02-2015, 09:05 AM

Tesla is vapourware.

DieGrüneHölle · 01-02-2015, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Levi

Tesla is vapourware.

I see at least 5 Telsa's a day. What's weird I can go days before I see a new M4.

fcman · 01-02-2015, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Blipit_

I see at least 5 Telsa's a day. What's weird I can go days before I see a new M4.

The difference is the Model S has been our for a couple years vs a couple months for the M4. Well that and the fact that the M4 is the most pointless car in BMW's lineup right now.

hellrotm · 01-02-2015, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fcman

The difference is the Model S has been our for a couple years vs a couple months for the M4. Well that and the fact that the M4 is the most pointless car in BMW's lineup right now.

Ok replace M4 with Z4 or 135i...

I see more Telsa's everyday than some BMW models. It is far from vaporware, as someone stated above.

mike the snake · 01-02-2015, 01:21 PM

I see many many Teslas every day here in wine country.

KingOfJericho · 01-02-2015, 01:21 PM

It's a response from someone in Europe, where the brand barely exists. I see easily a half dozen a day and drive by two supercharging stations in my short 12 mile commute.

FC4 · 01-02-2015, 01:22 PM

In the top 25 wealthiest zip codes in the United States, the Tesla Model S is the single most registered made/model of car.

Depending on where you live, they are perhaps the most common car you will see on the road. Drive on the SF Peninsula or Silicon Valley and I guarantee you will see more Teslas in a given time frame than any other model car. In PoDunk Arkansas, perhaps not so much.

Chihuahua · 01-02-2015, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Blipit_

I see at least 5 Telsa's a day. What's weird I can go days before I see a new M4.

+1, me too.

mtownerman · 01-02-2015, 01:47 PM

See a lot as well on the monterey peninsula

TheBingoBalls · 01-02-2015, 02:26 PM

See quite a few Tesla's downtown Toronto everyday. It's a regional thing.

hellrotm · 01-02-2015, 03:35 PM

BMW got caught doing the same thing in 2012, trying to beat Mercedes. They were counting car sales, but cars were never registered to new owners.

Meeni · 01-02-2015, 03:52 PM

I saw plenty when I visited california, but they are nowhere to be seen outside of there.

KingOfJericho · 01-02-2015, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Meeni

I saw plenty when I visited california, but they are nowhere to be seen outside of there.

badbeef · 01-02-2015, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

They're everywhere around where I live. I was a passenger in one and it was impressive. Too bad it doesn't have 3 pedals...but even if it did you wouldn't be able to hear the motor rev out warning you to shift. That's the main problem with these IMHO.

FC4 · 01-02-2015, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by badbeef

They're everywhere around where I live. I was a passenger in one and it was impressive. Too bad it doesn't have 3 pedals...but even if it did you wouldn't be able to hear the motor rev out warning you to shift. That's the main problem with these IMHO.

Yeah, they should definitely release a Tesla with a manual trans. I'm tired of all these autos.

bimmerboyE92 · 01-02-2015, 06:12 PM

I regularly see four different ones and I'm in Louisville, KY.

I did see one with an Alaska license plate while driving from KY to MI once.

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 01-02-2015, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FC4

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Originally Posted by badbeef

They're everywhere around where I live. I was a passenger in one and it was impressive. Too bad it doesn't have 3 pedals...but even if it did you wouldn't be able to hear the motor rev out warning you to shift. That's the main problem with these IMHO.

Yeah, they should definitely release a Tesla with a manual trans. I'm tired of all these autos.

Ummm you guys realize Teslas just use a single fixed gear right?

FC4 · 01-02-2015, 06:25 PM

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Ummm you guys realize Teslas just use a single fixed gear right?

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