BMW E60 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com  
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts  

Go Back   BMW E60 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Off-Topic Discussions Board

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-08-2009, 09:24 AM   #1
335e92tx
ahat
335e92tx's Avatar
1036
Rep
2,592
Posts

Drives: Was '07-335e92 - Now '13-335IS
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Texas

iTrader: (6)

Unhappy Bad experience buying a corgi puppy local-LONG

It started with me telling the wife about a corgi puppy that was in the same neighborhood that my mom lives in. She mentioned it to her youngest daughter (13) and we went by to see it. The daughter wanted one and they wasted no time (mistake #1) finding one about 40 miles away (that was two weeks ago from sunday - June 7)


The place did not look as neat and clean as I thought it should - but I didn't say anything (my mistake 1). The mothers and fathers ( I generally don't use the word Bitch or bastard even when talking about dogs) were in real small pens that had only dirt for the surface. The puppys were allowed to run around in the backyard that mostly had grass growing. Only one of the 4 puppies was a good size (I think they were like 8 weeks). The others were kind of skinny. The owner said she 'just wormed them' :/

So, my stepdaughter found one she really liked and when the wife asked if she wanted to look some more, the step daughter said no she really wanted to take that one NOW (bbzzzttt).

Within like 2 days the crap started getting real soft. (should have taken the dog to the vet the very next day - mistake X by this point) By 5 days it was almost water - and even showing signs of blood.

Trouble was, the oldest daughter was graduating from HS that night and there was like a house full of 12 relatives. The entire time the dog would continue to eat well and be real lively. They took him to a vet Saturday morning and he was diagnosed with coccidia http://www.peteducation.com/article....2+1622&aid=727 - Its a parasite that is transferred from the soil (or even the parent) and for young animals (with weak immune systems) it can be very dangerous. They gave him an antibiotic but sunday morning (1 week ago), he was just about dead.

We rushed him to the local vet school and they said he had gone 'septic' - effectively the parasite had moved from the intestine to the blood stream. They said the odds were 50/50. He would be there for at least 3 or 4 days (at a cost of 1-2K) but if they got him stable (could require plasma) he should be ok.

Well he died thurs night. Cool little dog.

http://s626.photobucket.com/albums/t...5ownrtx/puppy/


The wife wants to look for another - I said we really need to check any place out first. Talk to the vet that the owner uses. Find some of the brothers and sister puppies that others have bought and talk to those new owners. In short, much more of an informed vs spur of the moment decision.
__________________

'13 335IS N54 (1 of 373 LeMans Blue out of 3597 total production e92)- Grey interior (1 of 24 in LMB with any trans- 1 of 14 with DCT)-MODS -MFactory LSD/MHD-BQ custom Tune/ATM-IC/AFE Momentum GT Intake/Konis/Mfront&HeimJoint Rear rods&arms/Brembos.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lo6aHZRo7XqtPkhL8
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 09:34 AM   #2
FStop7
I like cars
FStop7's Avatar
Vatican City State
329
Rep
5,052
Posts

Drives: M6
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Newbury Park, CA

iTrader: (3)

Sounds like the place was a puppy mill and not a legit breeder. Scumbags.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 09:40 AM   #3
Sandydog
Registered Offender
United_States
0
Rep
39
Posts

Drives: '09 E92 335i x-Drive
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Alaska

iTrader: (0)

If you haven't contacted your local Animal Control group, the ASPCA chapter in your area, and the Better Business Bureau, you really need to do so.

You are correct: The bastidges are running a puppy mill, and are ripe for an animal-cruelty prosecution.

Vermin like that shouldn't be allowed to live, let alone breed (children OR dogs).
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 09:45 AM   #4
335e92tx
ahat
335e92tx's Avatar
1036
Rep
2,592
Posts

Drives: Was '07-335e92 - Now '13-335IS
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Texas

iTrader: (6)

Of course, she said she had NEVER had this experience previously. But that does not help my wife being out 2500smakers. But I might suggest something for this breeder for a little more oversite. Sounds like she was just in it for the $$ - not really ANYTHING else.
__________________

'13 335IS N54 (1 of 373 LeMans Blue out of 3597 total production e92)- Grey interior (1 of 24 in LMB with any trans- 1 of 14 with DCT)-MODS -MFactory LSD/MHD-BQ custom Tune/ATM-IC/AFE Momentum GT Intake/Konis/Mfront&HeimJoint Rear rods&arms/Brembos.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lo6aHZRo7XqtPkhL8
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 10:09 AM   #5
yomama69
Banned
United_States
60
Rep
688
Posts

Drives: 2007 E90 335i
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Austin, Texas

iTrader: (0)

Dude. There are a lot of breeders in Texas and DO NOT buy a puppy from a breeder that won't guarantee them for a year. It might cost you an extra 100-200, but it will save you the heartache and medical bills. Aside from that, get pet health insurance right away. You can get it as cheap as 15 bucks a month. http://www.petcareinsurance.com/ is where my dogs have there insurance from.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 10:12 AM   #6
Ochmonek
Nosy Neighbor
0
Rep
21
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Next Door in Riverside

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 335e92tx View Post
Of course, she said she had NEVER had this experience previously. But that does not help my wife being out 2500smakers. But I might suggest something for this breeder for a little more oversite. Sounds like she was just in it for the $$ - not really ANYTHING else.
Three words: Small Claims Court.

Good luck.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 10:14 AM   #7
yomama69
Banned
United_States
60
Rep
688
Posts

Drives: 2007 E90 335i
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Austin, Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ochmonek View Post
Three words: Small Claims Court.

Good luck.
Are you serious? It's unlikely the breeder has any money.

OP, if you are going to try to go to small claims court, get in contact with me first.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 10:16 AM   #8
Ochmonek
Nosy Neighbor
0
Rep
21
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Next Door in Riverside

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by yomama69 View Post
Are you serious? It's unlikely the breeder has any money.

OP, if you are going to try to go to small claims court, get in contact with me first.

They've got the OP's $2500.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 10:19 AM   #9
yomama69
Banned
United_States
60
Rep
688
Posts

Drives: 2007 E90 335i
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Austin, Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ochmonek View Post
They've got the OP's $2500.
No they don't Corgi's don't cost 2500. Most of that was for vet bills.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 10:50 AM   #10
Tondtar
12 yr old Juvie
Tondtar's Avatar
Vanuatu
1076
Rep
881
Posts

Drives: His Mom Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: El Lay

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
Sorry to hear that. It's never easy to see a much loved pet leave this way.

Rescue a dog from your local shelter or dog foster organizations next time. It's the right thing to do.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 11:01 AM   #11
335e92tx
ahat
335e92tx's Avatar
1036
Rep
2,592
Posts

Drives: Was '07-335e92 - Now '13-335IS
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Texas

iTrader: (6)

Yeah, they had less than stellar results from fostering and shelters. No pets they wanted this time from the local shelter.

And just about 3years ago, they had fostered three black lab puppies. They ended up getting parvo soon after they took them in and had to have IV fluids administered (not to mention all the other things associated with parvo), twice a day for like 2 or 3 weeks. And one still died.

Then a cat they had got hit by a car and had to have a rear leg amputated. That was like 1500. Their luck with pets has been like the ultimate fail.
__________________

'13 335IS N54 (1 of 373 LeMans Blue out of 3597 total production e92)- Grey interior (1 of 24 in LMB with any trans- 1 of 14 with DCT)-MODS -MFactory LSD/MHD-BQ custom Tune/ATM-IC/AFE Momentum GT Intake/Konis/Mfront&HeimJoint Rear rods&arms/Brembos.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lo6aHZRo7XqtPkhL8
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 11:25 AM   #12
Ochmonek
Nosy Neighbor
0
Rep
21
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Next Door in Riverside

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by yomama69 View Post
No they don't Corgi's don't cost 2500. Most of that was for vet bills.
Hey, I'm from CA. This is the litigation capitol of the world. If you're out money, sue to get it back.

To the OP: Sorry about your troubles.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 12:46 PM   #13
jaiman
Captain
20
Rep
658
Posts

Drives: very fast
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

Wow. You let a puppy suffer through diarrhea for 5 days. Perhaps, you aren’t responsible enough to own a dog.

For anyone else reading, when you get a puppy you should take it immediately to your own vet. Yes, even before you go home.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 01:12 PM   #14
335e92tx
ahat
335e92tx's Avatar
1036
Rep
2,592
Posts

Drives: Was '07-335e92 - Now '13-335IS
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Texas

iTrader: (6)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiman View Post
Wow. You let a puppy suffer through diarrhea for 5 days. Perhaps, you aren’t responsible enough to own a dog.

For anyone else reading, when you get a puppy you should take it immediately to your own vet. Yes, even before you go home.

Hindsite is 20/20. The purchaser and others said that was not abnormal for the worming condition.. glad you have such vast experience - Im sure I will consult the off-topics forum next time.. maybe when I need to see a proctologist. With 3 different people taking the dog out (and the primary one being 13 yo) its kind of hard to know what follows behind the dog.

But thanks for your compassionate response
__________________

'13 335IS N54 (1 of 373 LeMans Blue out of 3597 total production e92)- Grey interior (1 of 24 in LMB with any trans- 1 of 14 with DCT)-MODS -MFactory LSD/MHD-BQ custom Tune/ATM-IC/AFE Momentum GT Intake/Konis/Mfront&HeimJoint Rear rods&arms/Brembos.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lo6aHZRo7XqtPkhL8
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 02:22 PM   #15
jaiman
Captain
20
Rep
658
Posts

Drives: very fast
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 335e92tx View Post

Hindsite is 20/20. The purchaser and others said that was not abnormal for the worming condition.. glad you have such vast experience - Im sure I will consult the off-topics forum next time.. maybe when I need to see a proctologist. With 3 different people taking the dog out (and the primary one being 13 yo) its kind of hard to know what follows behind the dog.

But thanks for your compassionate response
I showed you the same level of compassion you showed the puppy. It doesn't take vast experience (or a ton of smarts) to know that blood in stool = trip to vet.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 02:25 PM   #16
335e92tx
ahat
335e92tx's Avatar
1036
Rep
2,592
Posts

Drives: Was '07-335e92 - Now '13-335IS
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Texas

iTrader: (6)

This decision was made by my wife who has been involved with raising dogs since probably longer than you have been on this earth.

Should it have been taken - YES, that is known. Why was it not? - because someone made a mistake.



If you think I need your input to tell me what I already know, you are mistaken.

Find another thread to 'contribute' to.
__________________

'13 335IS N54 (1 of 373 LeMans Blue out of 3597 total production e92)- Grey interior (1 of 24 in LMB with any trans- 1 of 14 with DCT)-MODS -MFactory LSD/MHD-BQ custom Tune/ATM-IC/AFE Momentum GT Intake/Konis/Mfront&HeimJoint Rear rods&arms/Brembos.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lo6aHZRo7XqtPkhL8
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 02:58 PM   #17
stimpy
Colonel
167
Rep
2,210
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Phoenix AZ

iTrader: (7)

Ugh - sucks He had beautiful coloring. I have two corgi's myself... best dogs ever!

I know it wasn't your doing but if you decide to get another, definitely spend a couple extra bucks and buy one from a reputable breeder and the pup is AKC registered. This will make sure your dog isn't inbred or from a puppymill. You also had some good thoughts about checking with the vet and stuff.
________
Ford B platform specifications
________
Buy No2 Vaporizer

Last edited by stimpy; 02-18-2011 at 05:17 AM..
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 05:22 PM   #18
yomama69
Banned
United_States
60
Rep
688
Posts

Drives: 2007 E90 335i
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Austin, Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ochmonek View Post
Hey, I'm from CA. This is the litigation capitol of the world. If you're out money, sue to get it back.

To the OP: Sorry about your troubles.
That's the capitol of my world.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 05:26 PM   #19
yomama69
Banned
United_States
60
Rep
688
Posts

Drives: 2007 E90 335i
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Austin, Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by stimpy View Post
Ugh - sucks He had beautiful coloring. I have two corgi's myself... best dogs ever!

I know it wasn't your doing but if you decide to get another, definitely spend a couple extra bucks and buy one from a reputable breeder and the pup is AKC registered. This will make sure your dog isn't inbred or from a puppymill. You also had some good thoughts about checking with the vet and stuff.
+1 and most of them will offer a money back guarantee if the dog dies due to illness in the first year. I spent a fucking fortune on our rare breed dog because my wife wanted her. I wouldn't have done that if the breeder wasn't guaranteeing the dog wouldn't be ill.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 05:34 PM   #20
Mighty M
First Lieutenant
25
Rep
304
Posts

Drives: 08 M3 Jerez/FR Manual
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Vienna, VA

iTrader: (0)

Dont you need to hire goons to break people's legs and steal their nintendos in this line of work?
__________________
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2009, 08:49 PM   #21
Mighty M
First Lieutenant
25
Rep
304
Posts

Drives: 08 M3 Jerez/FR Manual
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Vienna, VA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mighty M View Post
Dont you need to hire goons to break people's legs and steal their nintendos in this line of work?
Hey sorry to interrupt your thread with that post, it was supposed to be on another thread. I have no clue as to how it ended up here.

Sorry for the loss, that sucks.

Mods please delete.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      06-11-2009, 10:24 PM   #22
SE3P_to_E90
Banned
United_States
231
Rep
3,030
Posts

Drives: E90 Msport + E83 Msport
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: MD

iTrader: (29)

Coccidia is a relatively common infection for young pups... Has to do with stool ingestion. When I first picked up my dog from the mall, he had minor coccidia, and I took him to the vet immediately where they gave me antibiotics... Dog's great now.

I think you waitied too long on this one. His stool was getting soft by day 2, and you waited until day 5 when his stools were basically water with blood to take him to the vet? wtf?

It doesn't matter if the mill was legit or not... when you picked him up, he was lively... and the infection was completely treatable. Just goes to show, if you let a pup die like that, maybe a dog isn't in your (or it's for that matter) best interest.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:33 AM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST