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      05-08-2019, 09:54 AM   #23
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Agree with 1 thru 4. but please explain to me as a Christian, why is access to guns so important to you
Isnt the Lord God of heaven and your faith in him enough to protect you?
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This nation was founded on Christian beliefs. As DonaldPump stated, The Lord helps those who helps themselves.
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Not a proponent of torture myself but for discussions sake, if the death penalty and torture would prompt school shooters to eat a bullet themselves I say that's a good thing. Some not all of these nuts want to live and look forward to the notoriety they receive from the killings. They might not be so anxious to murder if they don't get to enjoy the 'fame'.
Sure would save tons of money not having to incarararte them for life or worse still they get released after 20-25 years because some lib psychologist says he's rehabilitated and no longer a threat, we see that way to often.
Don't get me twisted. I'm all for humane punishment but the people who are doing something of this magnitude are just plain evil and something needs to happen. Maybe something that extreme will make them think twice before acting on something like that.

Too bad we can't have a hunger games island and put all of these scumbags on it
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Don't get me twisted. I'm all for humane punishment but the people who are doing something of this magnitude are just plain evil and something needs to happen. Maybe something that extreme will make them think twice before acting on something like that.

Too bad we can't have a hunger games island and put all of these scumbags on it
We can call in Highlander Island. There can be only one. They will all kill each other.
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This nation was founded on Christian beliefs. As DonaldPump stated, The Lord helps those who helps themselves.
He forgot this doozy.
Word.

Gun control won't stop a psychopath from getting weapons and using them in a horrific manner.

Law abiding citizens should not be punished for other peoples crimes. It's like if some dude banged your wife and you blamed his dick.
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Not a proponent of torture myself but for discussions sake, if the death penalty and torture would prompt school shooters to eat a bullet themselves I say that's a good thing. Some not all of these nuts want to live and look forward to the notoriety they receive from the killings. They might not be so anxious to murder if they don't get to enjoy the 'fame'.
Sure would save tons of money not having to incarararte them for life or worse still they get released after 20-25 years because some lib psychologist says he's rehabilitated and no longer a threat, we see that way to often.
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My question is why are they in custody, not dead?
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The death penalty has been shown to have almost no impact on reducing violent crimes. I learned that in Sociology class back in 2014 Sad, but apparently serious violent offenders are more motivated by their intentions than by the consequences.
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The death penalty has been shown to have almost no impact on reducing violent crimes. I learned that in Sociology class back in 2014 Sad, but apparently serious violent offenders are more motivated by their intentions than by the consequences.
Why that's certainly true to an extent it is by no means 100%. There are many who actually fear death and a point of truth is, almost anonymously those convicted of horrible murders when given death sentence will fight as long as they possibly can for a life sentence instead of death or at least a decades long court battle to extend life.
The Catch 22 is we'll never know how many didn't commit capital murder because they feared the ultimate penalty but would have if a long sentence was the prescribed penalty.
It's also call capital PUNISHMENT not capital deterent for a reason.

I took sociology is college also to get easy credits, I would hardly call it a science but more of a hypothesis laced experiment.
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The death penalty has been shown to have almost no impact on reducing violent crimes. I learned that in Sociology class back in 2014 Sad, but apparently serious violent offenders are more motivated by their intentions than by the consequences.
This is true. It is not a deterrent but it is a great way to take out the trash. As opposed to housing and feeding them for life in prison.
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This nation was founded on Christian beliefs.
Probably my favorite non-fact ever.
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My question is why are they in custody, not dead?
Probably because the officers feared a liberal Colorado grand jury indictment and trial jury pool loaded with weed smoking, mushroom gobbling earnings in faces dopes who hate cops.
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Sorry bud. Won't be a history debate here. You all can believe what you want. Enjoy that popcorn.
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Sorry bud. Won't be a history debate here. You all can believe what you want. Enjoy that popcorn.
I'm actually legitimately curious the point you're trying to make.
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Sorry bud. Won't be a history debate here. You all can believe what you want. Enjoy that popcorn.
I believe actual history. You may believe what you wish.

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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Natureís God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.
We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness
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Sorry bud. Won't be a history debate here. You all can believe what you want. Enjoy that popcorn.
Yeah it was founded on SJW beliefs.
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My question is why are they in custody, not dead?
BC the school is not in Israel. Justice comes swift there. The gunman rarely lives to be taken into custody.
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Tragedy...

Can't wait until we ignore the deterioration of mental health in this country again and blame guns so that the masses of people who have the same cognitive capacity as a cow are sedated and absolved of their own guilt of being horrific parents/members of society who constantly influence this shit.
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Probably my favorite non-fact ever.
You might benefit from this

https://www.heritage.org/political-p...stian-founding
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Any confluence between 2nd Amendment rights and Christian values is ridiculous ... and this is coming from a Christian.
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Any confluence between 2nd Amendment rights and Christian values is ridiculous ... and this is coming from a Christian.
http://www.christian-attorney.net/ri...rms_bible.html
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I don't know how to fix this. It's a scary world. I do think that the root cause has to do with lack of parenting and technology. Kids these days don't learn conflict resolution. When I was a kid, we were outside playing with actual other kids from very young. It taught you conflict resolution very young and that not everyone behaved or thought the same way you did. If you had an argument, or a fight, you got punched in the face or rolled around on the ground and it was over. No more.

Now, it's texts and games and no one knows how to deal with real people. We also grew up knowing our actions had consequences. That no longer seems to be the case. I look at the frequency of hit and run accidents. How do you hit someone and just leave them there to die? Stop and deal with the consequences. People shooting cops over simple traffic stops. WTF?

I don't know how to get this horse back in the barn. But it clearly starts at home with the parents at a very young age. Until kids are brought up with respect and fear, this will continue.

And it's not just kids. Society as a whole sucks.
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