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      05-08-2019, 06:40 AM   #1
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Well we have another couple shitbags trying to murder innocent children. The news gave the name of the creeps this morning and I looked them up. The shooters are weirdos and there was a lot of red flags attached to them. The one is a transgender in the process of being something it's not and the other is described as, wait for it.............a Trump hater, oboma lover according to his social media postings. We see a pattern here.
Mental hospitals, prisons aren't working to deter these heinous crimes and I vote for the death penalty for these types of offenses even minor aged convicted. I'm tired of flipping the tv on and seeing stories of dead kids. Since we're adults heres a link on the event and 'suspects'. The more you know.
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The one is a transgender in the process of being something it's not and the other is described as, wait for it.............a Trump hater, oboma lover according to his social media postings. We see a pattern here.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...TDS is getting serious.
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Is there anything to indicate that this shooting is politically motivated, at all?
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Even in Colorado this didn't make that big of a splash.

Would never want to make that connection between transgender-ism and mental illness

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Is there anything to indicate that this shooting is politically motivated, at all?
Nah, just a couple of mentally ill youth poisoned by the diseased ideology of progressivism.
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Nah, just a couple of mentally ill youth...
In that case it is more than a little distasteful to dishonor the victims of this shooting by attempting to turn it into a dart to be thrown at political opponents, IMO.

My thoughts go out to the families of the victims. We need to figure out a way to curb this problem - and no, I don't think more "gun control" is the answer.
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I agree. Conspiring or plotting to kill innocent children should be the death penalty. OR maybe make a new penalty called the torture penalty. Let's see how many school shootings or innocent child killings there are after that

In any event it's sad horrible news but there are lots of just straight crazy people. There was a story on my new channel the other day that this guy in Queens, NY burned his daughter alive by setting his car on fire then chaining the doors so that nobody could get in or out of the car. She was 3 years old.... No weapons, just a car, chains and gas cans.

It made me sick to read about that. Like how could you even think about doing something so terrible? Life is not fair
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I agree. Conspiring or plotting to kill innocent children should be the death penalty. OR maybe make a new penalty called the torture penalty. Let's see how many school shootings or innocent child killings there are after that
I suspect it won't do a damn thing other than prompt the vermin to commit suicide after the deed...
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My thoughts go out to the families of the victims. We need to figure out a way to curb this problem - and no, I don't think more "gun control" is the answer.
Here are a few starters to curb the issue:

1. Stop pumping kids full of psychotropic drugs.
2. Stop pushing transgender-ism to kids who aren't even in kindergarden yet.
3. Instill Christian values in your kids or at least give them some kind of moral compass.
4. Stop giving phones to kids and giving them free roam of the internet.
5. Remove all gun-free zones which serve to only make shooters jobs easier.

But hey, what do I know?
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Here are a few starters to curb the issue:

1. Stop pumping kids full of psychotropic drugs.
2. Stop pushing transgender-ism to kids who aren't even in kindergarden yet.
3. Instill Christian values in your kids or at least give them some kind of moral compass.
4. Stop giving phones to kids and giving them free roam of the internet.
5. Remove all gun-free zones which serve to only make shooters jobs easier.

But hey, what do I know?
Other than #1 - show me some commonality between known shooters and your other "suggestions" and you might have a point.

A school being a "gun free" zone or not has no bearing. Teachers would still have to be authorized by the school to have firearms present in the buildings. "Gun free" zones don't apply to LEOs or security officers. Many sites of mass shootings aren't "gun free".

Bad parenting is not a new phenomenon, but mass shootings are (comparatively).

What are "Christian values"? Does that mean no Christians commit acts of violence? Is this a prologue to a "No True Scotsman" argument?
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I suspect it won't do a damn thing other than prompt the vermin to commit suicide after the deed...
Perhaps. Perhaps not
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Other than #1 - show me some commonality between known shooters and your other "suggestions" and you might have a point.

A school being a "gun free" zone or not has no bearing. Teachers would still have to be authorized by the school to have firearms present in the buildings. "Gun free" zones don't apply to LEOs or security officers. Many sites of mass shootings aren't "gun free".

Bad parenting is not a new phenomenon, but mass shootings are (comparatively).

What are "Christian values"? Does that mean no Christians commit acts of violence? Is this a prologue to a "No True Scotsman" argument?
The issue here is obviously culture. If you think children having unlimited access to the internet is not affecting them, we have nothing to talk about. I was born in 1990, this is my generation I'm talking about. As a child/adolescent, I searched for anything and everything you can imagine once I had access to the internet. I can recall several instances of what I found there that had a huge influence on me as a kid. Luckily I was grounded in my Christian beliefs which helped.

The problem is too far gone at this point. Best solution is to say fuck public schooling and have the private sector develop a robust home-school system where parents can both keep their kids safe and prevent them from being forced into state-mandated propaganda.
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In that case it is more than a little distasteful to dishonor the victims of this shooting by attempting to turn it into a dart to be thrown at political opponents, IMO.

My thoughts go out to the families of the victims. We need to figure out a way to curb this problem - and no, I don't think more "gun control" is the answer.
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Here are a few starters to curb the issue:

1. Stop pumping kids full of psychotropic drugs.
2. Stop pushing transgender-ism to kids who aren't even in kindergarden yet.
3. Instill Christian values in your kids or at least give them some kind of moral compass.
4. Stop giving phones to kids and giving them free roam of the internet.
5. Remove all gun-free zones which serve to only make shooters jobs easier.

But hey, what do I know?
Agree with 1 thru 4. but please explain to me as a Christian, why is access to guns so important to you
Isnt the Lord God of heaven and your faith in him enough to protect you?
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Agree with 1 thru 4. but please explain to me as a Christian, why is access to guns so important to you
Isnt the Lord God of heaven and your faith in him enough to protect you?
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The toothpaste is out of the tube on that front, my friend. How many guns are in private hands today?

Criminals will get guns if they want them, period. That reality is not going to change in my lifetime.

Let's look at some more immediate possible mitigation steps, shall we?
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The issue here is obviously culture. If you think children having unlimited access to the internet is not affecting them, we have nothing to talk about. I was born in 1990, this is my generation I'm talking about. As a child/adolescent, I searched for anything and everything you can imagine once I had access to the internet. I can recall several instances of what I found there that had a huge influence on me as a kid. Luckily I was grounded in my Christian beliefs which helped.
As I said, bad parenting is not new. Nor is there a good way to enforce, or really even encourage, bad parents to change their ways.



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And for the record, I am not actually saying anything I proposed will ever be taken seriously. In this disgusting world, my beliefs are "counter-culture" for believing that 3 year old boys shouldn't wear a dress.
Ridiculous. Also, show me some data that indicates transgenders are more prone to violent crime than cisgenders and we can talk. Until then, you're simply attempting to conflate your morality with actual causes of crime.


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The problem is too far gone at this point. Best solution is to say fuck public schooling and have the private sector develop a robust home-school system where parents can both keep their kids safe and prevent them from being forced into state-mandated propaganda.
And this would help the vast majority of mass shootings that don't take place at a school how? Further, how are private schools better equipped, necessarily, to handle this scenario than public schools?

Home schooling presents it's own set of social challenges for children.
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As I said, bad parenting is not new. Nor is there a good way to enforce, or really even encourage, bad parents to change their ways.

Ridiculous. Also, show me some data that indicates transgenders are more prone to violent crime than cisgenders and we can talk. Until then, you're simply attempting to conflate your morality with actual causes of crime.

And this would help the vast majority of mass shootings that don't take place at a school how? Further, how are private schools better equipped, necessarily, to handle this scenario than public schools?

Home schooling presents it's own set of social challenges for children.
Yeah I’m not gonna do the whole song and dance where you pick apart every statement, no thanks.

Our culture is fucked and that’s why kids get shot in schools. So that’s my take on it, what are your recommendations for fixing the problem?
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I suspect it won't do a damn thing other than prompt the vermin to commit suicide after the deed...
Not a proponent of torture myself but for discussions sake, if the death penalty and torture would prompt school shooters to eat a bullet themselves I say that's a good thing. Some not all of these nuts want to live and look forward to the notoriety they receive from the killings. They might not be so anxious to murder if they don't get to enjoy the 'fame'.
Sure would save tons of money not having to incarararte them for life or worse still they get released after 20-25 years because some lib psychologist says he's rehabilitated and no longer a threat, we see that way to often.
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Yeah I’m not gonna do the whole song and dance where you pick apart every statement, no thanks.
Oh, you mean a discussion. Yeah, I can see where you wouldn't want to do that on a discussion forum.


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Our culture is fucked and that’s why kids get shot in schools. So that’s my take on it, what are your recommendations for fixing the problem?
I think trying to de-stigmatize (is that a word?) mental health issues, by which more people would get treated, would be a giant step in the right direction.

I don't think everyone being armed is a viable solution, however. ESPECIALLY in school scenarios. Most LEOs are undertrained when it comes to using their weapons proficiently (IMO) - I can only imagine what it would be like for teachers.

Honestly, I don't know what else. If I had the answers, I'd be off making a fortune from it, not talking about here with you jamokes.
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Isnt the Lord God of heaven and your faith in him enough to protect you?
You are not serious...
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