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      11-18-2019, 08:33 PM   #67
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Even the liberal channel thinks the dems can. are too far left.

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The left platform has nothing to do with issues/voting history/values. It's about image and convincing the lower class/uneducated and inexperienced youth that they'll get things for free and that if they side with the right then they're automatically racist. We fail miserably as a society to teach these same people where the money comes from and who gains power every time something is given to you for free. It's the political party of people who can't conceive complex thought. Only A or B selections.
This is about as incorrect of a post as they come. They are opening a foxnews rehabilitation center.
If this is true I'm signing my mom up tomorrow..
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Mayor Pete has problem with black voters. Here's the solution. Rename his name to Pete Bootygieg.
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For the libertarians here, Sen. Sanders and others have proposed legalizing weed, and restoring women's right to choose. Are those positions not aligned with libertarian thinking on the role of government?
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Mayor Pete has problem with black voters. Here's the solution. Rename his name to Pete Bootygieg.
I read that many middle to older age black folks have qualms with Pete.

Obama's former aide held a rally yesterday...2 people showed up.
NEXT!
Bloomberg is polling at 3%.
NEXT!
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Before the dems want to beat Trump, they have to figure out how to beat wall streets first.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bradl...210215745.html
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Before the dems want to beat Trump, they have to figure out how to beat wall streets first.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bradl...210215745.html
Thanks for the link, West. Dem candidates certainly have a problem in this area, one among many.
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Thanks for the link, West. Dem candidates certainly have a problem in this area, one among many.
But on the flip side, in order for Bloomberg to beat Trump, first he first has to beat the dems. It's a race to see who will get to the center. That's where things start to gel.
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      11-21-2019, 08:58 PM   #75
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For the libertarians here, Sen. Sanders and others have proposed legalizing weed, and restoring women's right to choose. Are those positions not aligned with libertarian thinking on the role of government?
They are definitely aligned with libertarian views, and I would have no problems voting for someone with those views. It's the rest of the Berns far left socialist platform that I'm not a fan of.
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They are definitely aligned with libertarian views, and I would have no problems voting for someone with those views. It's the rest of the Berns far left socialist platform that I'm not a fan of.
And I'd add if you're a "single issue" voter, you're not really a libertarian, anyway. You are just pro-choice or want to smoke weed legally.
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      11-22-2019, 10:34 AM   #77
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And I'd add if you're a "single issue" voter, you're not really a libertarian, anyway. You are just pro-choice or want to smoke weed legally.
It's a single issue, I want my wife to have the choice to smoke weed or eat THC gumbys
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And I'd add if you're a "single issue" voter, you're not really a libertarian, anyway. You are just pro-choice or want to smoke weed legally.
It's a single issue, I want my wife to have the choice to smoke weed or eat THC gumbys
Sounds yummy
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So agreement on THC gummies (but NOT cheap knockoff vape cartridges).

How about improving the VA?

https://berniesanders.com/issues/honoring-veterans/
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Or helping out family farms instead of just multinational ag corporations?

https://berniesanders.com/issues/rev...rural-america/
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      11-22-2019, 02:25 PM   #81
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So agreement on THC gummies (but NOT cheap knockoff vape cartridges).

How about improving the VA?

https://berniesanders.com/issues/honoring-veterans/
I have absolutely no problem with anything that any candidate wants to do, is doing, can, or will do to help Veterans. I looked very briefly at his plan on your link, fine by me.
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Or helping out family farms instead of just multinational ag corporations?

https://berniesanders.com/issues/rev...rural-america/
This is where Bernie goes sideways for me. I followed the link, and found right up front his key points.

"Key Points
Level the playing field for farmers and farm workers.
Empower farmers, foresteers and ranchers to address climate change and protect ecosystems.
Foster investment to revitalize rural communities."

I see more govt involvement in all of those, where they shouldn't be increased at all. Bernie is for more govt. I am for less.

Level the playing field = Wealth redistribution
Empower farmers etc. = Spend more of your money on what is already a substantial portion of said farmers budget for protecting the environment.
Foster investment = Tax you all to bring Socialism to rural America. It's just not for the cities anymore.

No thanks.
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      11-22-2019, 04:29 PM   #83
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Here is the question. What is the right answer?

1. Why should the same product be made in the US where the labor cost is very high, vs. made in China where labor cost is very low? Is it ethical to take away US job and give it to China?
Proponent will say "That's how it should work because at the end of the day, just like any regular people, you want to maximize efficiency, minimize cost, to make anything. Like you would choose the shortest path to your way to work. You are not going to intentionally pick the longest route so that Shell company will make more money right?"
Opponent will say " ....... well I don't know ....... ...".

Interestingly enough, low tariff and free trade are meant to improve efficiency and lower cost across the globe. The producer can freely find where it's cheapest to produce goods. The problem is you're running into national security issues, ethical issues, and last but not least, political issues. Both sides will politicize it.

Figure out the three's above and you got the answer.
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      11-22-2019, 04:34 PM   #84
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legalizing weed lol. would probably chill all these extremists the fuck out. but then what would they do all day?
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The charming part of the original question is that it's based on the theory that Democrat politicians try and win votes by proposing better ideas. Sadly the party with an ASS as their symbol chooses a different tact. Democrats clearly prefer to take power through destroying their opponents, rather than winning over constituents with better solutions and approaches.
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The charming part of the original question is that it's based on the theory that Democrat politicians try and win votes by proposing better ideas. Sadly the party with an ASS as their symbol chooses a different tact. Democrats clearly prefer to take power through destroying their opponents, rather than winning over constituents with better solutions and approaches.
And by promising free stuff.
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The charming part of the original question is that it's based on the HOPE that Democrat politicians try and win votes by proposing better ideas. Sadly the party with an ASS as their symbol chooses a different tact. Democrats clearly prefer to take power through destroying their opponents, rather than winning over constituents with better solutions and approaches.
FTFY.
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The charming part of the original question is that it's based on the [HOPE] that Democrat politicians try and win votes by proposing better ideas. Sadly the party with an ASS as their symbol chooses a different tact. Democrats clearly prefer to take power through destroying their opponents, rather than winning over constituents with better solutions and approaches.
FTFY.
For the record; edits should be put in brackets.
Oh- and fuck you too.
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