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01-27-2019, 01:07 PM | #23 |
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Black and white is an American slang term for a police car that is painted in large panels of black and white or generally any "marked" police car. Historically, this scheme was much favored by North American police forces because it allowed the unambiguous recognition of patrol units from a significant distance. However, as the color scheme is not standardized, each police agency in Canada, Mexico, and the U.S. can choose their own color scheme. The most common variant of the black and white color scheme is white roof and four white doors, the second most common is white roof and only the two front doors. In Finland and Sweden, the black and white police cars had black roofs to make them visible in high snow. I don't think there's anything nefarious about it. Some departments paint them blue and white, all yellow, all white with decals.....who knows. Some of it may come down to fleet costs etc....maybe obert can comment. |
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01-27-2019, 06:57 PM | #25 |
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01-27-2019, 09:50 PM | #27 |
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Its a used one they got for 65kish I forgot the number it's in the article.
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01-27-2019, 10:23 PM | #29 |
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61kUSD, another 4.4k for equipment related stuff, it's about 40k for an Explorer and 4.4k equipment and stuff according to the article.
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01-27-2019, 10:45 PM | #32 |
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So to outfit a Police interceptor Explorer for patrol use you looking at around 30g or more.
Plus cost of vehicle. |
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01-27-2019, 10:53 PM | #33 |
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I'm assuming that's for brand new parts? Or does reusing parts vary per PD
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01-27-2019, 11:03 PM | #34 | |
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Only thing that is reused is ICV and police radio. Everything else is stripped and trashed. All lights, ballistic panels. You also have to take into consideration totaled vehicles. In most of these cases you would need all new parts. |
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01-27-2019, 11:29 PM | #35 |
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I can see this working for detectives, some specialty units, Captains even Chiefs. But full patrol no.
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01-28-2019, 08:51 AM | #36 |
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Except I can think of few applications where a vehicle would burn as much fuel idling and otherwise as a police vehicle. The fuel cost per year has to be far and above any private citizen use.
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I've never owned an EV and I've said on this forum I don't ever see myself owning one. Having said that I have spent many years in a Scout Car (patrol vehicle). From my experience the heat or AC is always on, the car also has to support radio, computer and emergency lights among other things. I suspect all of these things plus extreme weather the drain on the battery will be off the charts so based on my understanding and experience I don't really see any EV as being a practical solution for real patrol applications. I remember way back in the day my department bought two Reliant K Cars for uniformed patrol. I gather it was a test project to see if they were viable for marked patrol cars from a cost and durability point of view. I can tell you the cars didn't last 60,000K and were pulled from service after about 6 months. Among other things, they were slow, not robust and far too small for a prisoner or for officer comfort. I think the Tesla being discussed here is a pilot project or a boutique project for show. |
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01-28-2019, 09:43 AM | #38 |
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Of course. Most places use “idle right” so it turns on and off the vehicle as needed when at idle. With the upcoming hybrid models it will get even better. The Tesla just isn’t there as far as R&D for patrol use yet.
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Unless tesla gave the car to the Fremont Police Department (which a lot of auto makers do with their local towns that they manufacture Cars in) this is just an outrageous waste of money.
We pay so much money here in California for taxes and this is yet another example of wasted money. |
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Just some quick math, lets say $50 US a day x 365 days in fuel for a regular police car, that's $18250 a year. The life expectancy of a police car in many jurisdictions is about 70-80K miles so about 1-2 years. I think it was mentioned earlier what the price of a $40K for a Ford fleet vehicle. The car in the article was used and supplied for about $65K I think, but lets compare apples here. A new Tesla is about $100K and I'd suggest higher to upgrade for real world policing. The price might net out. So if the price nets out you still need to take into account the shortfalls the Tesla would likely face against a police package fleet vehicle. I don't think at this time it's a viable option for regular patrol duty. Last edited by Grumpy Old Man; 02-01-2019 at 09:23 AM.. |
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I wonder why Gang Task Force gets away with flexing their dicks with the cars they seize. The BC Gang Task Force has a E92 M3 lol, wonder what the cost to run that for them is.
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02-01-2019, 10:39 PM | #43 |
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Seattle police keep theirs for 5 years no matter mileage. Or until it’s no longer cost affective to repair. This usually only happens from accidents not mechanical failure.
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About 15 years ago when there was a real budget crunch on they tried repairing cars past their best before date to put off the purchasing of new cars. A disaster. I think it was a good lesson in fleet management and economics. The things were in the shop constantly. I remember the Crown Vic transmissions just wouldn't last past a certain point. |
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