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      08-30-2019, 12:14 AM   #221
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Let's begin a new thread about the transition from the Mueller Investigation and Hoax to the Barr Investigation of the foundations of the information used to create the report, the FISA warrant violations, the now-confirmed allegations of spying on the Trump Campaign, the malfeasance of the FBI leadership, as well as the leaks of classified information to the media by the aforementioned FBI leadership. Oh...don't forget a proper investigation of the Hillary Clinton E-mail server debacle including the 30K+ deleted email and the destruction of any and all devices which may have held evidence of the aforementioned violations.

Mueller is closed. Let's move on the the next chapter.

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Quite well, thanks for asking.
Meh. Click-bait sensationalist headlines are nothing new for either side.

"Damning" because he broke FBI policy. What are they going to do, fire him again?

...The 83-page report on Comey's handling of "sensitive information," released Thursday, said the investigation found "no evidence that Comey or his attorneys released any of the classified information contained in any of the Memos to members of the media."...




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Quite well, thanks for asking.
GONZO certainly missed on his jail and treason prediction. Not so much as a slap on the wrist.
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How is the Russia-gate investigation going? I could back and find all sorts of old posts regarding that, but what kind of no life does that?
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Meh. Click-bait sensationalist headlines are nothing new for either side.

"Damning" because he broke FBI policy. What are they going to do, fire him again?

...The 83-page report on Comey's handling of "sensitive information," released Thursday, said the investigation found "no evidence that Comey or his attorneys released any of the classified information contained in any of the Memos to members of the media."...




https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...on-james-comey


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The language they used is very specific. What is written is absolutely true. What's not written is that he used the professor as a "cutout" to get the information to the media.

While I'm not conversant on that part of federal law, I understand that being responsible for an information leak whether through negligence or a result of one's direct or indirect action when I had my clearance was still an offense. I'd like to ask Run Silent for his experience on this and you, as well, since I believe you did contracting for the government, too.

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The language they used is very specific. What is written is absolutely true. What's not written is that he used the professor as a "cutout" to get the information to the media.

While I'm not conversant on that part of federal law, I understand that being responsible for an information leak whether through negligence or a result of one's direct or indirect action when I had my clearance was still an offense. I'd like to ask Run Silent for his experience on this and you, as well, since I believe you did contracting for the government, too.

What say you?
I still have my TS clearance and I'm typing this from my office on MCB Quantico.

Honestly, I'm not sure from a legal perspective. I just always do everything I can to prevent spillage of any sort. Best not to tempt fate, right?

I don't see any reason for the IG to be attempting to protect Comey, so if he did something shady, I would expect it to be called out.
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I still have my TS clearance and I'm typing this from my office on MCB Quantico.

Honestly, I'm not sure from a legal perspective. I just always do everything I can to prevent spillage of any sort. Best not to tempt fate, right?

I don't see any reason for the IG to be attempting to protect Comey, so if he did something shady, I would expect it to be called out.
Exactly. His act of leaking to the professor was deliberate and, in a just world, should have engendered some type of legal repercussion.

On your last point I agree but there is always the, "insider network", that protects its own no matter the industry or profession.

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Exactly. His act of leaking to the professor was deliberate and, in a just world, should have engendered some type of legal repercussion.
Maybe, maybe not. We both admit we're not familiar with the law(s) in question, nor the prosecutorial "norms" for that type of violation. Right?


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On your last point I agree but there is always the, "insider network", that protects its own no matter the industry or profession.
Completely fair - I would think Barr being at the head of the table would prevent most/all of that, however, especially in this specific case.


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Plans for the holiday?
Not much. Mom's birthday is on Sunday, so we're having a little cookout for her, cake/ice cream, etc.

How about you and yours?
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GONZO certainly missed on his jail and treason prediction. Not so much as a slap on the wrist.
Tsk, tsk and tsk.

* I never said anything about treason. But you do. You are certain that the POTUS committed treason and should be punished by death. Never mind your hundreds of collusion posts.
* The gist of yesterday's report has been known for weeks and that the DOJ was not pursuing prosecution. Guess you missed all of that too.
* Barr Durham are working on the Comey Going To Jail case(s). You know, the things that aren't out yet.
* Not even a slap on the wrist? Lol. The guy is melted Jello in the legal & LEO community. Reputation...shite!

Thanks Obama, Clinton, Clapper, Brennan, Lynch, McCabe and Comey. You managed to slime just about everything.

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The language they used is very specific. What is written is absolutely true. What's not written is that he used the professor as a "cutout" to get the information to the media.

While I'm not conversant on that part of federal law, I understand that being responsible for an information leak whether through negligence or a result of one's direct or indirect action when I had my clearance was still an offense. I'd like to ask Run Silent for his experience on this and you, as well, since I believe you did contracting for the government, too.

What say you?
I no longer maintain a clearance, but previously held a TS-SCI, SCIF, NPI clearance.

Essentially - release of classified information, whether deliberately or through negligence, is a crime and is punishable.

The question, is whether the information released was indeed classified, if it was - to what degree, and what the prosecutors feel they could actually prove in a court of law.

Normally, you don't see charges levied on folks that are not in the military, unless the release of classified information is egregious, blatant, and confirmed it did/or could have had substantial negative impact to the United States (think Reality Winner or Edward Snowden). For other, less serious violations, they are typically only charged if military personnel - as evidence burdens are much lower under the UCMJ than in a normal courtroom.

I'm not seeing anything here he is likely to be charged with. In addition, the release by the AG appears to be nothing more than a paper tiger - words only - Comey likely doesn't really give a shit.

Also - MK - thanks for asking what I am doing over the weekend- apparently I'm not part of the cool kid crowd.

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I no longer maintain a clearance, but previously held a TS-SCI, SCIF, NPI clearance.

Essentially - release of classified information, whether deliberately or through negligence, is a crime and is punishable.

The question, is whether the information released was indeed classified, if it was - to what degree, and what the prosecutors feel they could actually prove in a court of law.

Normally, you don't see charges levied on folks that are not in the military, unless the release of classified information is egregious, blatant, and confirmed it did/or could have had substantial negative impact to the United States (think Reality Winner or Edward Snowden). For other, less serious violations, they are typically only charged if military personnel - as evidence burdens are much lower under the UCMJ than in a normal courtroom.

I'm not seeing anything here he is likely to be charged with. In addition, the release by the AG appears to be nothing more than a paper tiger - words only - Comey likely doesn't really give a shit.

Also - MK - thanks for asking what I am doing over the weekend- apparently I'm not part of the cool kid crowd.

J/K of course.
Thanks for the response and the detailed clarity. It's all lost in the mist of time to me. And on your second to last point...the one before you start giving me a hard time , I think it's typical insider protection engaged.

Now...what do you have planned this weekend?

Now to both you and hooligan_COLD , I'm watching a boatload of Formula One, helping my parents at the house, meeting the gf for dinner on Saturday and cooking out on either Sunday or Monday. A pretty full weekend!

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Thanks for the response and the detailed clarity. It's all lost in the mist of time to me. And on your second to last point...the one before you start giving me a hard time , I think it's typical insider protection engaged.

Now...what do you have planned this weekend?

Now to both you and hooligan_COLD , I'm watching a boatload of Formula One, helping my parents at the house, meeting the gf for dinner on Saturday and cooking out on either Sunday or Monday. A pretty full weekend!

See...I included you.

Ha! Of course I jest.

Also - did you say girlfriend? I was under the impression you were still "shopping around" - have we decided on someone? I believe details are in order.

With respect to us - we are going "glamping" in Dupont State Forest up in the mountains, near Lake Julia. Our "tent" includes a bedroom, a loft for our daughter, stove, microwave, bedroom with queen sized bed, shower, tub, and toilet.

That's about as close to "roughing it" as the wife and kiddo are willing to go. Works for me too, I'm too old for a replay of my life in my 20's with the gubbament. I want my luxuries.


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How is the Russia-gate investigation going? I could back and find all sorts of old posts regarding that, but what kind of no life does that?
Lots on convictions. Many points proven on obstruction.
Why does Trump want Putin back in the G7?
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Ha! Of course I jest.

Also - did you say girlfriend? I was under the impression you were still "shopping around" - have we decided on someone? I believe details are in order.

With respect to us - we are going "glamping" in Dupont State Forest up in the mountains, near Lake Julia. Our "tent" includes a bedroom, a loft for our daughter, stove, microwave, bedroom with queen sized bed, shower, tub, and toilet.

That's about as close to "roughing it" as the wife and kiddo are willing to go. Works for me too, I'm too old for a replay of my life in my 20's with the gubbament. I want my luxuries.
I completely understand on the luxuries. I also enjoy camping...at the local Ritz-Carlton or similar campground! It sounds like you have some fun planned and I hope you thoroughly enjoy it.

On the gf front, I had settled but then had doubts when someone else came back into my life but my rational brain kicked in and reminded me that the human brain idealizes memories to spare from negative events and while gorgeous, she was a bit self-centered and dramatic. So still with the Brazilian and hanging out with no real purpose in life.

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I "liked" this post, but for clarity - I'm not "liking" that you have to be on call.
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I wonder if he was tapping that? Can't blame him if he was. Considering his big ass companion. She looks like she would be crazy good in bed.
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Dude, she’s a friggin mess and can scare snakes
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At the age of 73 you might think differently. Just something about her. One night material
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She looks like Gollum from Lord of the Rings. Precious....
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Nope.

Room-rate-by-the-hour motel material. Clearly.
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