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      07-02-2019, 03:06 AM   #1
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Its the chicken little threat. Is the G.S.M. Real?

Word on the streets is that its not global warming but global cooling thats going to kill us all. Anybody heard if this? Want to chime in?

Lets keep the lizard people n the grey skins out of this. The clintons and trumps play no part either. The science is interesting though.

Grand Solar Minumum = G.S.M.

The idea is that low sunspot activity equals cooler global climate.

Conspiracy or reality? If so how may it shape our political climate in the near future?



Heres a teaser link.
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      07-02-2019, 10:58 AM   #3
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It's pretty interesting reading up on past Maunder/solar Minimums. To say the weather was extreme is quite an understatement!

http://wiki.iceagefarmer.com/wiki/Hi...aunder_Minimum

Good old NASA is really going to have to fudge the climate data more now to make prior periods look cooler, need to keep that hockey stick BS going!
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this has been the latest craze. where have you been?

it was global warming in the early 2000s, and slowly shifted to climate change to account for areas that werent warming as quickly as predicted, or were cooling all together.
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I think the OP’s video is a crock. I suspect the USDA surveys were conducted when farmers were still optimistic that the fields would dry out and they could plant - and published in June when it was becoming apparent that the optimism was misplaced. Which explains USDA wanting a re-do.

However the GSM may be real - no doubt we are at or near solar minimum in the 11 year cycle now, but GSM suggests this could last up to 50 years (in some estimates). Apparently no one really knows how long it will last, or what the impacts will be, although they are thought to not significantly offset warming (maybe a 5% offset to the warming scientists say we’ve already experienced or is yet to come). I’m neither arguing for nor against the climate science, just saying the GSM, if it occurs, will probably not be that big a deal.

On the other hand, average temps mean little if the extremes either collapse or get bigger - more volatile temps and weather have pretty severe consequences; and less volatile temps also have significant (albeit different) consequences. As a business with heavy weather dependence, and seasonal variation especially, we will be watching this closely.

The best we have so far is for a slightly cooler winter this year in North America, particularly the Tenn-Ohio area (where we focus). But it is way to early to call that a reliable forecast.
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There are quite a few years worth of ice core data as well as a few thousand years of human history that correlates this shitty story. 5000 years ago north africa was a very green place you know.
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Yeah, please explain the theory pg gl;obal cooling to Germany where its been 115.
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Yeah, please explain the theory pg gl;obal cooling to Germany where its been 115.
Wait, when we were having record low temperatures the past couple winters that was the "weather". Now that Europe is hot (while we're cool as a cucumber here in America), it's man made climate change.

Which is it?
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Yeah, please explain the theory pg gl;obal cooling to Germany where its been 115.


Its a free world so if anybody wants to talk smack to N.A.S.A about the g.s.m. And how its fake news then feel free to hit up their own websites in order to sjw yourselves into shaming America’s top astronomists.

Ive been watching sunspots and been curious about their patterns since the 80’s. The 11-12 year sunspot cycle is very real.

Thousands of years of correlated christian/muslim/asian historical accounts regarding sunspot behaviour is well documented.

And as ive said before that info tying into ice core samples and well understood lava deposits (the iron at the time of solidification always points to the poles) all tie in to regular patterns of weather that can over time change drastically.

Hence the chicken little thing.

Look into the theory. Come to a personal decision. Dont be an ignoramus and blow off anything you dont personally know about as impossible. Doing so would put a person in line with the DEVO trend that that wonderful movie Idiocracy depicted.

Im on the line with this theory. Its interesting. I hope its all a croc of shit to be honest.

This was the latest winter ive seen in Vancouver Canada in many years. Go look up how well the american bread basket is doing right now. I hope all these scientists are wrong to be honest.

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This one gets a little deeper.

Ffw to 1:40. Thats where the interview starts.

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Yeah, please explain the theory pg gl;obal cooling to Germany where its been 115.
Weather conspiracy theories! Where does Q anon fit in? Where does pizza gate fit in?
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Wait, when we were having record low temperatures the past couple winters that was the "weather". Now that Europe is hot (while we're cool as a cucumber here in America), it's man made climate change.

Which is it?
Nicky: These are the hottest temps on record ever for Germany(unless I misread the news from Europe), So, a record is worth talking about and when the glaciers are melting and pretty soon there will be no Northwest Passage as it will be open water without ice, something has changed don't you think?
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Yeah, please explain the theory pg gl;obal cooling to Germany where its been 115.
Btw bimmer im actually glad that you posted this. Im really quite interested in a science based conversation. Did you watch the two vids? Do you think nasa is wrong?
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Nicky: These are the hottest temps on record ever for Germany(unless I misread the news from Europe), So, a record is worth talking about and when the glaciers are melting and pretty soon there will be no Northwest Passage as it will be open water without ice, something has changed don't you think?
Last feb. Around the last week if feb actually. We got a snowstorm and cold weatger. Snow till march. I tell you by all i hold holy that snow and freezing temps in Vancouver is kinda unheard of.

Why don't you look up the weather in the midwest. I wouldnt be surprised if it is colder than seasonal.
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Nicky: These are the hottest temps on record ever for Germany(unless I misread the news from Europe), So, a record is worth talking about and when the glaciers are melting and pretty soon there will be no Northwest Passage as it will be open water without ice, something has changed don't you think?
Considering the absolutely abysmal, terrible, horrible predictions of climate and how it was going to be from 15-20 years ago......no.
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Nicky: These are the hottest temps on record ever for Germany(unless I misread the news from Europe), So, a record is worth talking about and when the glaciers are melting and pretty soon there will be no Northwest Passage as it will be open water without ice, something has changed don't you think?
Except that is BS. Temps in Europe were high as well between 900AD - 1250AD. And that is on record. Of course climate change experts are doing their best to not bring that up.

In the end global warming is yet another stunt to take money from the plebs
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I'm still waiting for the magnetic field crisis to hit the headlines.
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Yeah, please explain the theory pg gl;obal cooling to Germany where its been 115.
looks like the last time it was this hot there was 1947

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/26/europ...ntl/index.html

.2 degrees in 72 years is an unheard of crazy fast rate of temp increase.

also, its like you have completely forgot about the record lows that swept through much of the USA the last couple winters.

you need to get with the times and use the new earth is doomed climate terminology of "climate change" not global warming. this way you account for both the record lows and record highs
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AVERAGE Global temperature is increasing. The fact is that the warmest 13 global years have occurred in the last 20 years. Anyone that does the statistical math will find that the odds of this occurring randomly is less than 4 out of 1 billion.

Its not sunspots, its not normal climate variation.
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AVERAGE Global temperature is increasing. The fact is that the warmest 13 global years have occurred in the last 20 years. Anyone that does the statistical math will find that the odds of this occurring randomly is less than 4 out of 1 billion.

Its not sunspots, its not normal climate variation.
Please provide definitive data?

Im not here for a fight. But you cant just kill a threat because your word is the gospel of all that is your reality. Lets do a science based thingy here.

Be careful with what studies one posts. It can be surmised and determined that smoking is healthy after 2000 people smoke battery acid vs tobacco. Scientific studies exist with such wide parameters that any desirable answer can be the result. Eg. eating plutonium is the healthier (you will live longer) option when faced with the choice of eating plutonium vs eating a cyanide pill.

I have posted some data. Fuck some of its from nasa!! Is the earth warming? Please provide us with scientific data.
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Write it off as improvements in measuring technologies and larger numbers of connected observation points skewing the old averages. Note the fine print in most hurricane statistics, which note that records before weather satellites existed may have missed storms completely if they didn't make landfall.

As the saying goes, there's three types of un-truths...lies, damn lies, and statistics.....
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Please provide definitive data?

Im not here for a fight. But you cant just kill a threat because your word is the gospel of all that is your reality. Lets do a science based thingy here.
The earth's magnetic field is measurably weakening. At some points in the earth's past when this weakening occurred, the magnetic poles even swapped ends. North Pole was in Antarctica. All those elves had to pull up stakes. That could happen now, tomorrow. Or a hundred years from now. But it will happen soon.

I'm a computer geek. I got there by way of having been an electronics geek, which requires one to have a smattering of basic electrical knowledge. Magnetic fields and electromotive force are closely intertwined; one need only look under the hood of any automobile at the alternator to prove it to themselves.

Clouds are formed when water vapor condenses in the upper atmosphere. As the clouds' water molecules (and ice crystals in some cases) tumble around they generate an electro-magnetic field. They do this whilst existing in earth's magnetic field. Which is weakening by the day.

Magnetic fields and their impact on the earth's weather. This is going to be big I tell you.
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