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      01-25-2017, 02:42 PM   #67
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Odd, you'd think those fleeing oppressive Islamic regimes and ISIS would be exactly the kinds of people that you'd want to provide a home for in the USA as they'd be champions against that kind of Wahabist(saudi!) radicalism.

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"


Still, plays well with the base, eh?
Sweet allow them all into the U.K. then. We have a right to be selective. We all know how wonderfully the migrant situation is working out for Germany.
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What I love about all this "Muslim Ban", put in quotes because that's the leftist term for what is really a suspension of US visas for people from certain countries and not a ban on a religion in general, bullshit is that none of these idiots know their history.

Jimmy Carter did the same shit back in 1980. Now some leftist interpreters try to paint what he did as being COMPLETELY different from what Trump is doing here, but their arguments can't hold water. They point out stupid crap like "he was acting against a state, not a religion". At the time, the theocracy (READ Islam) that ran Iran agreed with the actions taken by the kidnappers. So Carter took action against the country of Iran (READ enemies of the state) by implementing a ban on the admittance of individuals from that country unless it was for a good reason or in our national interest, call backs of existing visas for background checks, deporting those who needed to be deported, followed by sanctions (the very ones Obama got rid of in the nuclear deal). Many of them self-deported.

Well, Trump is doing the same to achieve a similar goal. He's restricting issued visas for people from countries where many of these ISIS assholes originate from. The tool he's using is the exact same one Carter used, but this time, the target isn't a specific country where the enemy is singularly located. We live in a different time now and this is the only tool he can use to shore up one end of a larger problem: Radical Islamic Terrorism. No one person, not even Trump, believes this is a cure-all. It's a step. Plus, it's TEMPORARY until we establish a protocol to do exactly what Carter made exceptions for the implementation of his executive order.

Think it's not a problem? Think it's not a threat? Tell that to the Americans who lost their loved ones last year in attacks by radical Muslims both here and abroad. Over half the attacks in the last year on American soil were executed by refugees given either permanent status or citizenship.

I, for one, support the fuck out of this action. I don't want this country flooded with the same ilk that's invaded Europe and caused so many problems. I want to live in a country that's smarter than that. There's not a single libtard that wants to acknowledge DT bitch slapping the room full of Republicans after the terrorist attack on the gay night club in Orlando stating how they were OUR fucking people, we need to protect them, and then re-emphasizing it after a the crowd immediately quieted. Yeah, he sure has a problem with gay people...
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So upon reviewing the now available Exec Order it appears (partial list);

- The core of it is to suspend immigration from these countries while the director of Homeland Security completes an assessment and recommendation for further longer term actions (I believe those actions will need to be approved by congress if there is funding involved)

- Suspend the visa waiver program and require interviews for all non-immigrant visa's

- Require reasonable reciprocity for any country processing US visa requests

- Still allows HS to admit up to 50,000 refugees in FY 2017

- Allows for minority religion exemption for the countries listed

- Buys back capacity to expedite the Biometric Entry Exit System (a program approved under Obama

And here is the interesting part;

Make publicly available info, within 180 days - info regarding # of of foreign born nationals charged with, convicted with, provided material support, or removed because of terrorism related offenses or supporting terrorist related activities

Information regarding the number and types of acts of Gender based violence against women or honor killings by foreign-born individuals in the US (honestly, I think they should include religion based and sexual orientation also)
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So upon reviewing the now available Exec Order it appears (partial list);

- The core of it is to suspend immigration from these countries while the director of Homeland Security completes an assessment and recommendation for further longer term actions (I believe those actions will need to be approved by congress if there is funding involved)

- Suspend the visa waiver program and require interviews for all non-immigrant visa's

- Require reasonable reciprocity for any country processing US visa requests

- Still allows HS to admit up to 50,000 refugees in FY 2017

- Allows for minority religion exemption for the countries listed

- Buys back capacity to expedite the Biometric Entry Exit System (a program approved under Obama

And here is the interesting part;

Make publicly available info, within 180 days - info regarding # of of foreign born nationals charged with, convicted with, provided material support, or removed because of terrorism related offenses or supporting terrorist related activities

Information regarding the number and types of acts of Gender based violence against women or honor killings by foreign-born individuals in the US (honestly, I think they should include religion based and sexual orientation also)
After the lies the trump white house has already told, why would anyone believe the stats they talk about.
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      01-25-2017, 03:42 PM   #72
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After the lies the trump white house has already told, why would anyone believe the stats they talk about.
What lies exactly?
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      01-25-2017, 03:56 PM   #73
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What lies exactly?
-Spicer lying about crowd size.
-Trump lying about crowd size.
-Kelly anne conway saying that trump wont be releaseing the taxes, the audit was BS, then a day later flipping and saying he will release them.
-Trump lying and saying the media created the Nazi comparisons with the intelligence community when trump himself created it and tweeted it and it's still on his timeline.

Those are just lies told to the public on TV this weekend.

They even tried creating a new phrase for their lies. "alternative facts"

They are banking on enough stupid americans that won't question their lies, and we know there are plenty of stupid people.
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      01-25-2017, 03:59 PM   #74
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-Spicer lying about crowd size.
-Trump lying about crowd size.
-Kelly anne conway saying that trump wont be releaseing the taxes, the audit was BS, then a day later flipping and saying he will release them.
-Trump lying and saying the media created the Nazi comparisons with the intelligence community when trump himself created it and tweeted it and it's still on his timeline.

Those are just lies told to the public on TV this weekend.

They even tried creating a new phrase for their lies. "alternative facts"

They are banking on enough stupid americans that won't question their lies, and we know there are plenty of stupid people.
You didn't cite any lies. You cited things you disagree with.
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You're going to have an aneurysm.
4 years.
What if he runs in 2020 and won?
4 more years.


It's what, day 6?
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      01-25-2017, 04:02 PM   #76
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You didn't cite any lies. You cited things you disagree with.
Nope, those are all lies. Nice try tho.

Trump said there were 1-1.5mil people at inauguration. That's a lie.
Spice saying it was the most watched inauguration ever is a lie.

Then again you probably just don't believe facts.
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You're going to have an aneurysm.
4 years.
What if he runs in 2020 and won?
4 more years.
He'll def win in 2020 again with what they are looking to do with voting rights. Doesn't mean I won't make noise about it.

Just wish there weren't so many stupid trump supporters that rather buy his lies vs what is reality.

Trump trying to take this country so far right so quick will backfire bigly.
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You didn't cite any lies. You cited things you disagree with.
.......no lies?
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You didn't cite any lies. You cited things you disagree with.
they are straight up lies. So you're a Trump apologist?
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Nope, those are all lies. Nice try tho.

Trump said there were 1-1.5mil people at inauguration. That's a lie.
Spice saying it was the most watched inauguration ever is a lie.

Then again you probably just don't believe facts.
Ok. Then please cite your EVIDENCE that those are lies. You sound mighty sure of yourself, so this should be easy for you.
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they are straight up lies. So you're a Trump apologist?
You are welcome to cite your evidence as well.
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they are straight up lies. So you're a Trump apologist?
You are welcome to cite your evidence as well.
You cite yours 1st......
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Ok. Then please cite your EVIDENCE that those are lies. You sound mighty sure of yourself, so this should be easy for you.
It would be a waste of my time to show you they are true. You would deny 100% evidence.
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http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/...rowd-size.html

You are an obvious trump apologist who thinks the almighty one can never do any wrong or lie.

And like I said, that list was just from this weekend.
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Ok. Then please cite your EVIDENCE that those are lies. You sound mighty sure of yourself, so this should be easy for you.
I'm sure I'm going to regret this.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...size/96984496/

You don't need a "crowd expert" to know there were more people at the previous 2 inaugurations.
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It would be a waste of my time to show you they are true. You would deny 100% evidence.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/...rowd-size.html

You are an obvious trump apologist who thinks the almighty one can never do any wrong or lie.

And like I said, that list was just from this weekend.
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The countries fighting The bad guys make up 1/3 of that list. The countries funding and supporting the bad guys are not on that list.

Total joke.

Would be supportive of this idea if it actually targeted the correct pieces of shit. This is just a list of boogie men countries that your average retard recognizes. Total political play that probably has no benefit.

I thought we were going to finally wake up and get onto the right side of the fight instead of same old same old.
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It would be a waste of my time to show you they are true. You would deny 100% evidence.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/...rowd-size.html

You are an obvious trump apologist who thinks the almighty one can never do any wrong or lie.

And like I said, that list was just from this weekend.
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