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      02-05-2019, 10:17 AM   #375
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I gotta say. I think they both look terrible lol
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I think it's a good car for it's price point
The m2 was compared favorable to the m3 becuase of it's lower price point ( ~$52k ) and it's short wheel base making it more agile . It had a lower spec N55 and less power but people looked past it because it was more "fun" to drive
The new Supra is even faster than the NEW S55 m2 comp , shorter wheel base 97.2vs.106 and the better "lower" spec B58 compared to the other N55
It even outpaces the m2C on the 'ring at 7:40
For a measely $50k it's the bargain car IMHO
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      02-05-2019, 12:16 PM   #378
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makes it crystal clear just how much better a z4 coupe would look than the supra
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      02-05-2019, 12:32 PM   #379
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It will, at what cost? M40i is $65k with zero options. Personally don't think BMW left any room for a Z4M with that pricing.


If someone is into the styling it seems like a decent buy, assuming you aren't paying a markup. Supra is only $290 more than the 4-banger Z4.
I bet the M division did mess around putting an S55 (or the upcoming S58) in the Z4. I bet they could get away with selling a Z4M for $80-85k. I don't think Toyota would like them encroaching on the LC-F though.
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      02-05-2019, 04:54 PM   #380
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I bet they could get away with selling a Z4M for $80-85k.
No f**king way. BMW couldn't even sell Z4 M Coupes at $56,000. They sold so POORLY at that price that they had to put a $10,000 trunk cash for them to sell. Effectively dropping the prices down to $46,000.

Price a Z4 M at $80K? They'll sell exactly ZERO when the M4's base price is cheaper than that.
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I don’t get all the fuss. It’s about as striking as a BRZ.
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      02-06-2019, 09:02 AM   #382
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I don’t get all the fuss. It’s about as striking as a BRZ.
The fuss is about Toyota screwing (or not screwing) this up. The last iteration of the car remains a legend so it had massive shoes to fill.
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      02-06-2019, 11:27 AM   #383
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The fuss is about Toyota screwing (or not screwing) this up. The last iteration of the car remains a legend so it had massive shoes to fill.
Exactly.

Makes you understand how good Chevy is with the Corvette, Porsche is with the 911 and Jeep is with the Wrangler. Each of them are icons and the next one is better than the previous model.

Toyota screwed this up by being lazy. They took WAY too long to return with the Supra and ended up cheaping out by making it a sibling of a German roadster. As Dr. Phil would say "What the hell are you thinking?"

Honda is doing something similar. They overthought the NSX and took way too long to reintroduce it. When they did, they lost the vast majority of buyers. It's overly complicated for the sake of being overly complicated. They got caught up in the "tech" of the day instead of producing another icon.
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I don’t get all the fuss. It’s about as striking as a BRZ.
With horsepower. Besides which if you actually put them side by side you'd be eating a word or two.
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With horsepower. Besides which if you actually put them side by side you'd be eating a word or two.
Eating a word in which regard?
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Damn I hate those little winglets. I'd have to buy a black one just to hide em.
It just makes it look like it's missing the lower element. Hadn't noticed those before. I also wildly hate stupid parking sensors. Just give me a front camera and leave those dumb looking circles off. Nearly as bad as clear bra.
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Here a Supra, well... if it looked like this, I'd shut up about it being so ugly.

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Here a Supra, well... if it looked like this, I'd shut up about it being so ugly.
The Rally Fighter was already done right the first time.
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More photos in yellow.

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I like the yellow, just dont like the wheels with it.
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This will look great in black. Not that it looks bad in color, but it was just look menacing in black.
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Here a Supra, well... if it looked like this, I'd shut up about it being so ugly.

https://hiconsumption.com/2019/02/20...by-rain-prisk/
I would buy that in a heartbeat.
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I would buy that in a heartbeat.
This concept cleaned up that front end so nicely
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