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View Poll Results: Which family is more corrupt?
Trump Family: Donald, Donald Jr., Kushner, Ivanka, Eric 11 35.48%
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      10-14-2019, 04:36 PM   #1
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Trump VS Biden: Which family is more corrupt?

Who should we be more upset with?
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Lol, the well educated biden boy has an international career seems hard to believe to people who support the leech in office who's kids are exempt from tariffs and who seem to get patents approved everywhere when ever it suits the negotiations.

Anyway. Let's get bigger tractors, Americans.
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Trumps kids:
https://www.apnews.com/215ffd4a7c25473abd5a0b1781bb947b
The emails showed how the presidentís oldest son had accepted a meeting with a Russian lawyer with the promise of receiving dirt on his fatherís opponent, Hillary Clinton. Not only that, heíd been told the dirt was part of the Russian governmentís ongoing support for his father.

https://www.gq.com/story/trump-kids-profit-presidency
How Don Jr., Ivanka, and Eric Trump Have Profited Off Their Dad's Presidency

https://fortune.com/2019/01/21/ivank...na-trademarks/
The trademark applications were filed in 2016 and 2017, according to the Associated Press. One trademark for brokerage, charitable fundraising, and art valuation services was approved on Jan. 6, and four othersócovering child care centers, sunglasses, and wedding dresses, and moreógained approval Sunday. Pending any objections, the trademarks will be finalized in 90 days.

Trump removed herself from the company when she entered the White House as her fatherís adviser in 2017, but was forced to close the brand in June 2018 due to declining sales and continuing questions of conflicts of interest.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...ises-questions
For example, as the president pulled U.S. troops out of northern Syria, allowing Turkish forces to begin a long-sought assault there, ethics watchdogs argued his personal business in Turkey could be influencing his foreign policy decisions.

Trump stands to earn between $100,000 and $1 million per year from Trump Tower Istanbul, according to a U.S. Office of Government Ethics report from earlier this year.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...nnamed-foreig/
Kushner company has taken in $90M from unnamed foreign accounts since 2017: Report




And this is just the start....................
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This is a really sad poll... Which of the 2 most likely to sit in the white house for the next 4 years is "more corrupt"?

Just a lovely thought....
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the honest politicians never make it on the ballot. if they're in politics they're corrupt. it is just a matter of which brand of corruption or how much you are okay with when you cast your vote.
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All that matters is the declaration of independence, the constitution and 1776.

Fuck the rest.
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Trump family is probably corrupt. The conflict of interest with Biden and his son is undeniable and it is amazing that people here insist there is no Ďevidenceí of wrong doing despite the ridiculous contracts and positions for an unqualified guy.

Regardless, the war on the media, who are as corrupt as everyone else in life but insist they (NYT, CNN, etc) deserve the right to influence how we live, outweighs all of trumpís faults in my book, and he has my vote.
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Is it even a question guys? Putin swayed 60 million votes in the 2016 election through 8chan, Trump himself has shot up a Walmart with an AR-15, and now he has the audacity to try to pull our troops out of the Middle East after 30 years. Doesn’t he get that we want war?

Impeach the TYRANT DRUMPF!
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Is it even a question guys? Putin swayed 60 million votes in the 2016 election through 8chan, Trump himself has shot up a Walmart with an AR-15, and now he has the audacity to try to pull our troops out of the Middle East after 30 years. Doesnít he get that we want war?

Impeach the TYRANT DRUMPF!
You've got my vote! I was watching ABC news last night and the Syrians are now attacking Kentucky! Things are getting out of control because of the Orange Menace! If only a socialist in their late 70's could come and save us!
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You've got my vote! I was watching ABC news last night and the Syrians are now attacking Kentucky! Things are getting out of control because of the Orange Menace! If only a socialist in their late 70's could come and save us!
All I know is that if we arenít taxed at 70% of our income then the climate is going to kill us in a month. Idk how Trump doesnít get this, ITS SCIENCE FOLKS - GIB THE GOV DA MONEY.

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Trump family is probably corrupt. The conflict of interest with Biden and his son is undeniable and it is amazing that people here insist there is no ‘evidence’ of wrong doing despite the ridiculous contracts and positions for an unqualified guy.

Regardless, the war on the media, who are as corrupt as everyone else in life but insist they (NYT, CNN, etc) deserve the right to influence how we live, outweighs all of trump’s faults in my book, and he has my vote.
Please substantiate any charges against either Biden.
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Trump family is probably corrupt. The conflict of interest with Biden and his son is undeniable and it is amazing that people here insist there is no Ďevidenceí of wrong doing despite the ridiculous contracts and positions for an unqualified guy.

Regardless, the war on the media, who are as corrupt as everyone else in life but insist they (NYT, CNN, etc) deserve the right to influence how we live, outweighs all of trumpís faults in my book, and he has my vote.
Is there conflict of interest? Certainly. Is there a ton of "bad optics"? Without question.

Where is the evidence of wrongdoing, though?

Media only influences how you live if you let it. Turn off the TV. Close your laptop. It's not that hard.
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ďMedia only influences how you live if you let itĒ

Are you serious? And how many are strong enough to resist. What do you think about kavanaugh and his career?

I canít remember the last time I saw news on TV, whether it be CNN or Fox or any rubbish channel thatís pumping out their opinions as news.
My point is media has a duty and there is no sign of that today. Steven Colbert said it. Anyone who wants to become elected has to be an expert at PR, ie lie anyway they can as long as they can get away with it. Anyone who is frank and human is no longer eligible for public position. Is this normal or appropriate? People should have common sense but it is not so common.

A career politicianís son gets ridiculous contracts despite no qualifications. Itís like a cardiologist strongly recommending a patient to get a pacemaker or an angiogram for some vague symptoms. Itís conflict of interest and it can blatant or it can be subtle. Bidenís son should have had the common sense to not take these contracts instead of now saying he will resign if Biden gets elected.
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Trump family is probably corrupt. The conflict of interest with Biden and his son is undeniable and it is amazing that people here insist there is no Ďevidenceí of wrong doing despite the ridiculous contracts and positions for an unqualified guy.

Regardless, the war on the media, who are as corrupt as everyone else in life but insist they (NYT, CNN, etc) deserve the right to influence how we live, outweighs all of trumpís faults in my book, and he has my vote.
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It’s a draw because Biden has milked the system for all it’s worth and his son has used his father’s position for every bit of influence he can get out of it. Trump has ripped people off and conned everyone he could to build his empire. His kids have been trained well and have no business being appointed to roles in the government. It was quite telling how Ivanka was treated at the Summit this summer, the Europeans put her in timeout while trying to engage them. It’s a tossup which is more repulsive.
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It’s a draw because Biden has milked the system for all it’s worth and his son has used his father’s position for every bit of influence he can get out of it. Trump has ripped people off and conned everyone he could to build his empire. His kids have been trained well and have no business being appointed to roles in the government. It was quite telling how Ivanka was treated at the Summit this summer, the Europeans put her in timeout while trying to engage them. It’s a tossup which is more repulsive.
Hunter Biden took in millions from foreign entities and the reason why businesses spend that kinda money on Politicians close family members is because it works!

You still cant show a single case of a Trump selling influence abroad!
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ďMedia only influences how you live if you let itĒ

Are you serious? And how many are strong enough to resist. What do you think about kavanaugh and his career?

I canít remember the last time I saw news on TV, whether it be CNN or Fox or any rubbish channel thatís pumping out their opinions as news.
My point is media has a duty and there is no sign of that today. Steven Colbert said it. Anyone who wants to become elected has to be an expert at PR, ie lie anyway they can as long as they can get away with it. Anyone who is frank and human is no longer eligible for public position. Is this normal or appropriate? People should have common sense but it is not so common.

A career politicianís son gets ridiculous contracts despite no qualifications. Itís like a cardiologist strongly recommending a patient to get a pacemaker or an angiogram for some vague symptoms. Itís conflict of interest and it can blatant or it can be subtle. Bidenís son should have had the common sense to not take these contracts instead of now saying he will resign if Biden gets elected.
Yes, I'm serious. I never suggested the majority of Americans had the discipline or the desire to NOT let themselves be influenced by the media.



I agree with the rest of your post above, but relatives of the rich and powerful have received undue and unearned advantages throughout history. That doesn't require some sort of wrongdoing on the part of the rich and/or powerful person, however.

Show me some evidence that Joe Biden abused his governmental power and I will happily jump on-board.

The Shokin thing is not that. A plane ride of Air Force 2 is not that.
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Lol, as far as read here somewhere majority of posters are pro-Trump.
That fakes the statistics and posts made that clear too. At the end for me personal is not the question, who of them are more corrupt or had done this more or less public - as long as Trump got fired, impeached or just the period is over and wouldn't stay longer as necessary into the WH.
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The fact that there is a sizeable number of people on this board that truly believe that Trump has not used his position as President to financially benefit his family or his businesses cements the right-wing cesspool this board has become.
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The fact that there is a sizeable number of people on this board that truly believe that Trump has not used his position as President to financially benefit his family or his businesses cements the right-wing cesspool this board has become.
"right-wing cesspool" hahahaha. The Trumps made their money before entering politics. The Bidens made it after. If you can't process that distinction...well keep screaming at the sky.

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"right-wing cesspool" hahahaha. The Trumps made their money before entering politics. The Bidens made it after. If you can't process that distinction...well keep screaming at the sky.

I'm not talking about what he did before President (although that in itself is suspect, but not relevant to the discussion); I'm talking about his time as President. Are you saying that the Trump has not used his position as President to financially benefit his family or his businesses?

Oh and by the way, Joe Biden is a career politician (except for the first 4 years out of law school). So yeah, Joe Biden's virtual entire wealth ($9M, according to Google) was after entering politics, by definition.

Edit: Also $9M in net worth is hardly any evidence of corruption given that represents almost 50 years of earnings and investments. A mere $15,000 invested annually in the S&P500 for 50 years alone gets you $9M.

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