Future BMW model information

[BMWGirlFL]

Originally Posted by Game

Well that's a big deal. LCI will likely be a comp again?

Hope you don't mind, I'm going to share this in the M2 thread.

Look again at the engine column in the EPA application excerpt. The EPA does not police badging.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Game

Well that's a big deal. LCI will likely be a comp again?

Hope you don't mind, I'm going to share this in the M2 thread.

Let me clarify with a collection of facts because people will read that short statement in every which way they like.

December 2022 release is for M2 base.
M2 base will not have a Competition option.
A separate M2 Competition model is in the plans.
It is not coming at the same time as M2 base.
My estimate of the probability of M2 Comp trailing M2 base by a year or more - 95%.
My estimate of the probability of M2 Comp being an LCI model (early 2025) - 70%.

[ynguldyn]

I could have simply said "BMW is marketing G87 M2 same way they did F87 M2"...

[Game]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

Look again at the engine column in the EPA application excerpt. The EPA does not police badging.

I'm seeing the S58. What am I missing?

[Game]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

I could have simply said "BMW is marketing G87 M2 same way they did F87 M2"...

Seems that way! Thank you for the info.

I assume they've produced a few more of these cars now. Have you seen any new exterior/interior options?

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

Look again at the engine column in the EPA application excerpt. The EPA does not police badging.

The M3/4 can cause confusion with the engine designation in that list and what the meaning is for EPA summary documentation.

S58B30T0 = AT
S58B30O0 = MT

What it doesn't represent is power rating or drive type (RWD/AWD)

[BMWGirlFL]

Originally Posted by lemetier

The M3/4 can cause confusion with the engine designation in that list and what the meaning is for EPA summary documentation.
S58B30T0 = AT
S58B30O0 = MT

My impression was T0 for both M2 transmissions and badging unclear.

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

My impression was T0 for both M2 transmissions and badging unclear.
Attachment 2878192

This is specific (at the moment) to the S58.

F87 only had Manual Transmissions; one Automated, one Meat.

Trying to rationalize the nuances of Emissions Certification Documentation is one of the most masochist endeavors in existence.

[as7920]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

There is still only a single M2 model - base. It doesn't have Comp as an option either.

Not again. Seriously?

Well I’m not making the same mistake again.

I hope the Comp comes in the 50th anniversary year.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by lemetier

The M3/4 can cause confusion with the engine designation in that list and what the meaning is for EPA summary documentation.

S58B30T0 = AT
S58B30O0 = MT

What it doesn't represent is power rating or drive type (RWD/AWD)

Both manual and automatic G87s have S58T. The difference is only in the choice of 2MA vs 2TB.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Game

Seems that way! Thank you for the info.

I assume they've produced a few more of these cars now. Have you seen any new exterior/interior options?

I posted some of them in a different thread somewhere. Didn't keep that list anywhere else.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by as7920

Not again. Seriously?

Well I’m not making the same mistake again.

I hope the Comp comes in the 50th anniversary year.

50th anniversary will last only 4 months into the production of the base G87. There will be no 50th Comp.

[atl_1M]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

50th anniversary will last only 4 months into the production of the base G87. There will be no 50th Comp.

When the comp is released, will it be available in manual? That will decide whether I move forward with g87 base on release or wait til comp since I want the most powerful manual version available.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by atl_1M

When the comp is released, will it be available in manual? That will decide whether I move forward with g87 base on release or wait til comp since I want the most powerful manual version available.

If I'm right with my time estimates, the earliest I'll be able to know the details of Comp will be mid-2023.

[BMWGirlFL]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Both manual and automatic G87s have S58T. The difference is only in the choice of 2MA vs 2TB.

M3/4 Competition, X3/4 M Competition & M4 CSL. Expected positive reaction.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Let me clarify with a collection of facts because people will read that short statement in every which way they like.

December 2022 release is for M2 base.
M2 base will not have a Competition option.
A separate M2 Competition model is in the plans.
It is not coming at the same time as M2 base.
My estimate of the probability of M2 Comp trailing M2 base by a year or more - 95%.
My estimate of the probability of M2 Comp being an LCI model (early 2025) - 70%.

Does that confirm the base model will get 455hp as stated on the first page of this thread? If so that's great news and I'm even more excited to see what the Competition model gets.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Tag

Does that confirm the base model will get 455hp as stated on the first page of this thread? If so that's great news and I'm even more excited to see what the Competition model gets.

Yes. All the info in the top post is about that model.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Yes. All the info in the top post is about that model.

Great news!

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Or a new stand alone flavour of "Extra-Boost Energie" drink mixed with a label of Scottish Whiskey?

Nailed it.

[redlineblog]

Originally Posted by lemetier

Lol…Wasn't YOUR screw-up. I say leave it. There isn't really anything that hasn't been listed in this thread.

Not from a layman's view that is…

Is there a link to this EPA document for G87 (or has someone downloaded it)? The first attachment here has gone.

[BMWGirlFL]

Originally Posted by redlineblog

Is there a link to this EPA document for G87 (or has someone downloaded it)? The first attachment here has gone.

Same attachment reposted.

[Hegge]

Originally Posted by R_Kuski

I cannot wait to get my hands on a M4 CSL. I absolutely loved the brief time I got to play with an M5 CS and M2 CS before that. Both amazing cars. I just hope the price for the M4 stays below $110k

It won’t be below $110K.