Subaru BRZ Concept STI - Amazing!!!

[F1Venom]

You know it's not a big deal if this thread dies off right? You can update it when some news about the STi version comes out but now you're just posting useless and completely unrelated crap.

[GoingTooFast]

CO2 emissions discrepancy between manufacturers announced figures and reality (in percentage above 100%) - huge difference from 2001 to 2011 and why?! The german car manufacturers present the highest discrepancy despite the fact that the average CO2 emissions level has indeed decreased over the last decade but at a lower rate than one would expect at first sight:





in ICCT study

[GoingTooFast]

[GoingTooFast]

in ICCT study

[GoingTooFast]

So, one area where the Toyobaru definitely didn't deliver was in the FUEL-EFFICIENT FUN department. I can't accept that the Toyobaru is less fuel-efficient in track than a 13 years-old more powerful, similarly weighted S2000. And, to my knowledge there's no real option available - electric cars at this stage are FAR from being a 'real' option - that addresses the issue of FUEL-EFFICIENT FUN except for the Volkswagen Bluesport Concept, which unfortunately still is only a concept, and the Alfa Romeo 4c.

Therefore, I can't convince myself to lose money selling my 1M to buy a 'less fuel-efficient than an old S2000' Toyobaru when driven hard because the m 77oney I would lose by doing so would be far from compensating the money on the fuel I would save with the Toyobaru which the evidence shows it is not as much as one would have first imagined.

I think it's obvious now for everyone that diesel is the way to go for FUEL-EFFICIENT FUN. Of course that when we talk about car fun, lightweight is always implicit. So, in the absence of a true driver's car diesel option the only real option for FUEL-EFFICIENT FUN is the 4c's extreme lightweight. Without a true fuel-efficient Toyobaru this thread doesn't make sense anymore to me so I will leave it as it is. My choice of the moment is the Alfa Romeo 4c! :

[notmisfit]

That 4C looks fantastic! This is my first time seeing it. Believe it or not I'm seriously (to the point of test driving one in a couple days) considering trading my 135i in for a 2014 (when they put out info) BRZ. The reality of it is I need a back seat.

Unfortunately I just can't do the garaged fun car and DD combo. I had a Miata and came to resent it while I drove my Impreza wagon all day. The card handled amazing after all the work I did but it was piss slow and a convertible. Now, my girlfriend of 1yr + is moving in and I will have access to a 2008 Camry. (Score!)

Life story divulged... I enjoy driving. I offer to drive a lot as opposed to her Camry because again, I hate having an enjoyable car rotting in my garage. I don't see this changing in the future. If I didn't need to worry about 3 bodies while having fun going to Whole Foods I'd probably opt for a 4C for sure. All that said my CPO runs out within a year, and I'm due for brakes and tires in short order. So the question is burning for me, do I spend $2-3k? Or... pick up a more long term solution, albeit slower. Using my 3k on an ideally more permanent solution!

I was probably a bit ignorant jumping into my 135i back in 2011 but I can honestly say I didn't anticipate going through tires every 20k. I haven't even tracked it or roasted the tires. I'd never roast the tires but I sure as hell don't want to track it now, and that makes me sad. Quote on brakes was 1.2k+ (indy shop, my parts - dealer wants $1700 and this is a good reputable (Baron BMW dealer!) Some Michelin PSS are roughly $950 @ Tirerack.com.

Hearing both of those prices my occasional track day motivations have gone from oh hell yeah, its too bad work had me traveling during this years event (because I initially registered...) to, "screw that, its too GD expensive!" Hell, I track my expenses and realized I've spent $800 on gas since March 8th! The car isn't breaking me but it feels like it's getting to a point of "is it really worth it?" As opposed to just banking the money and gaining interest.

Anyway, that is my pseudo declaration of me feeling like with my CPO's end is looming within a year, and my 65k 2008 135i being my DD is giving me serious reservations about keeping it. A 2014 BRZ is sounding right up my alley.

None of these concerns are against the 135i directly. I love the GD car hell I just added a Kerscher front lip and Scoipone rear diffuser! Reality seems to be catching up to fantasy though.

Ideally I test drive the car in a day and this entire beer fueled post is rendered obsolete.

We'll see.


P.S. I adored my Miata's (and 135i) interior for its simplicity. So please don't drag that into the conversation. Limited for me! If I do shit!
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/386794...da-miata-mx-5/

[cloakster]

Carlos Lago did a review of the Crawford Performance Turbo BRZ and loved it. Makes me even more excited to see what a proper BRZ STI would be like

[b0bab0i]

BRZ WAGON


http://jalopnik.com/holy-shit-brz-wagon-1467880566

[Red Bread]

Would buy tomorrow.

[Lorde]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Would buy tomorrow.

Only with CVT.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Snig

Only with CVT.

Would not buy EVAH.

[b0bab0i]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Would not buy EVAH.

LOL

Heres a bigger pic

[rayg]

I normally dislike the wagon style but wow thats a great looking car.

[BMW269]

Z3 Coupé?

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Levi

Z3 Coup?

I guess I'm a sucker, had a Z3 M Coupe, would buy this thing with three pedals in a second.

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

I guess I'm a sucker, had a Z3 M Coupe, would buy this thing with three pedals in a second.

Agree, I think the Z3 Coupé looked even more special than the Z4 Coupé E86. Those hips even put to shame a 911.

[BMW269]

[BMW269]