F1 2024: Chinese GP - Shanghai (Apr 21)

[Sneaky Pete]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

I disagree. That’s just because Max is a better driver and much shorter corners vs Sai who drives a more traditional geometric apex (like Per). The former is always quicker and is worth decent time. Max also needed to wait for the tires to get to temp in the early part, combined with the battery issue he had to bide his time a bit - otherwise he’d have passed even sooner but why when you can drop them by 13 seconds in 10 laps while knowing you have pace in hand to boot?

Oh come on...you think Verstappen is faster because he takes corners in a different way that no one else has ever noticed and copied?
Once the team told him how to fix the battery issue he pulled away from the Ferrari with ease.
Thats the advantage the RB has.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Sneaky Pete

Oh come on...you think Verstappen is faster because he takes corners in a different way that no one else has ever noticed and copied?
Once the team told him how to fix the battery issue he pulled away from the Ferrari with ease.
Thats the advantage the RB has.

Yes, I do. It takes someone with very good car control and ability to manipulate the car mid corner to drive in that manner. If you ever watch Pete Windsor talk about it, it’s clear it is worth plenty on a lap, especially with a talent level like Max. And not everyone can just do it - in fact, few have the capability to feel confident with the setup you need for it. Per tried to use Max’s setup and failed because he’s not that kind of driver and cannot deal with a car so pointy. Alb said it’s like having your computer mouse to 100 sensitivity and trying to control it - which to my recollection only Lec would prefer a set up this way. Most of the other drivers need more stability and find this way of driving too nerve wracking.
Beyond that, it’s not like RB had an 80-100 hp advantage like MB did last gen of car where Helen Keller could have won in that car. RB’s advantage is the driver now whereas back then it was simply hp.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by Sneaky Pete

Perez throughout his career has been at best a middle of the pack driver.
He keeps his place at RB by virtue of being exactly that.

So the driver does make a huge difference?
Because here you basically say the opposite:

Originally Posted by Sneaky Pete

Oh come on...you think Verstappen is faster because he takes corners in a different way that no one else has ever noticed and copied?

So where lies the point that something is due to the talent and capabilities of the driver and where is it the car?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

And 5 of those laps he was down 136-ish hp due to no battery and traction issues since the RB is known to be slow to warm tires. Just imagine how few races Ham would have won if his prev gen MB don’t have 80-100 more hp than every other car? Max is just in another league than anyone else - and this is the most parity F1 has ever seen with restrictions for those who do the best. So really goes to show in more equal machinery Max just does it better. Based on quali Ham had the 2nd fastest car (and maybe fastest by his own admission) and Max the 4th.

Spot on my friend . Spot on !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Damn right

🇺🇸 & Cold

Down the hatch, Brands Hatch

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

'Leave it to me'...yeah I saw that, LEW also locked up out of terror as the Lion approached and well, so easy was another nice meal

LEW and his beginners mistakes just like with his smoky brake magic button !

LEW always fails under pressure . Actually It's predictable !
Next year with the Italians it will be even worse...

Can't wait to see that ! Too funny ...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

LEW and his beginners mistakes just like with his smoky brake magic button !

LEW always fails under pressure . Actually It's predictable !
Next year with the Italians it will be even worse...

Can't wait to see that ! Too funny ...

The shpaghetti and vino verde breaks will be more prevalent than at any time with the team to escape the nagging.

[Killed by Death]

Pretty cool

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

The shpaghetti and vino verde breaks will be more prevalent than at any time with the team to escape the nagging.

Yes LEW : Man...That's the RB20 in Shanghai !

LMFAO !!!

[///M Power-Belgium]

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yes LEW : Man...That's the RB20 in Shanghai !

LMFAO !!!

Inspector Lew-Clouseau trying to work something out.

[Autobacs]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Sainz is doing an Ocon on CLc?

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Carlo is trying to impress Wolff by trying to beat Chas to avoid signing for Audi and Chas is slamming the door in his face not taking any of it.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Autobacs

Sainz is doing an Ocon on CLc?

I'm pretty sure It's Sainz revenge ...

Charlie was aware of LEW's Ferrari contract and Charlie agreed to give LEW a Ferrari contract..

Sainz is been screwed by Ferrari and Charlie !

[Killed by Death]

If Carlos had any chance for Chico's seat it's probably gone now after running Charlie WIDE

#WarHorses

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

If Carlos had any chance for Chico's seat it's probably gone now after running Charlie WIDE

#WarHorses

Sainz won't get Checo's seat in 2025 .
As far as I know , Checo can get a 2025 Red Bull contract , but Checo wants a 2 year contract .

Checo's contract negotiations have therefore been interrupted...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Inspector Lew-Clouseau trying to work something out.

=> https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank.../let_him_cook/

[Killed by Death]

[NickyC]

This might be the most awful, boring race of the year tomorrow (and that's saying something). Obvious Max and Checo 1/2, with Alonso no doubt dropping down the order since the AM doesn't have race pace. It will be super exciting once again to see who takes third and is 30+ seconds behind Max at the end, I just can't wait!

[dfox]

Originally Posted by NickyC

This might be the most awful, boring race of the year tomorrow (and that's saying something). Obvious Max and Checo 1/2, with Alonso no doubt dropping down the order since the AM doesn't have race pace. Will be super exciting once again to see who takes third, just can't wait!

pretty much just take the top 10 driver standings and that'll be the finishing order, barring accidents or something. Strategy is going to play a heavy hand.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by NickyC

This might be the most awful, boring race of the year tomorrow (and that's saying something).

well....then you can save yourself some time and don't watch it....

[///M Power-Belgium]

Gooooooood..... morning !