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      02-01-2018, 05:56 PM   #111
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Ok next thread is who makes the best chocolate....the Swiss or the Belgians...
Gross, neither. Both tend to add vanilla and other flavorings. Anything single source from a region that produces coffee is better than the big boys could ever produce.

I give Dackel his Belgian cheeses. Some of the Chimay cheeses are extraordinary and the cheeses from the smaller monasteries are so good it makes me want to book a ticket now.
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i was at a small sports bar (mainly affiliated with soccer/football) and two brits were busting american balls about how cold our beer is. saying it should be around room temp or whatever. This is California buddies, gets hotter than hell out here. Place would go out of business selling lukecold (just invented that word) beer.
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i was at a small sports bar (mainly affiliated with soccer/football) and two brits were busting american balls about how cold our beer is. saying it should be around room temp or whatever. This is California buddies, gets hotter than hell out here. Place would go out of business selling lukecold (just invented that word) beer.
I like beer, craft beer, guiness, murphy's, smithwich, asahi, lots of different beer. But I like it cold dammit. Nothing like some decent wings and gold MGD or Corona or even better Sol....but not room temperature dammit.
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My buddy and I go to Bardstown Kentucky for Bourbonfest often and the last day they give the beer away for tips only.....that's the shit.
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In overly hopped Seattle I'm finding myself craving a Negra Modelo and a little bit of sunshine right now.

Favorite of all time though: Pliny the Elder probably takes that honor.
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In overly hopped Seattle I'm finding myself craving a Negra Modelo and a little bit of sunshine right now.

Favorite of all time though: Pliny the Elder probably takes that honor.
Nerga Modelo in Mexico is so damn good. I don't know if its just the different bottle or the beer is different but its better
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Nerga Modelo in Mexico is so damn good. I don't know if its just the different bottle or the beer is different but its better
Probably bc it didnt go from cold to hot to cold to hot a million times when in transport.

I spent a month in Italy drinking Peroni and few other local beers. Came back stateside and decided to relive the experience. Bought a sixer of Peroni and was disgusted.
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Nerga Modelo in Mexico is so damn good. I don't know if its just the different bottle or the beer is different but its better
Probably bc it didnt go from cold to hot to cold to hot a million times when in transport.

I spent a month in Italy drinking Peroni and few other local beers. Came back stateside and decided to relive the experience. Bought a sixer of Peroni and was disgusted.
Yeah, and lagers don't really age well anyway.
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Nerga Modelo in Mexico is so damn good. I don't know if its just the different bottle or the beer is different but its better
Beer just doesn't travel well. I had a Sam Adams in Hong Kong in October and it was terrible. Totally skunked. It's why you see breweries like Stone opening up brewing operations in Europe and Brewdog opening up brewing operations in the United States. Brewing in country is the only way to keep that freshness and ensure the quality.

Also, differences in mineral content in the local water can totally change the flavor.

It's been years since I've been to Mexico but I'll definitely make a point to grab a few Modelos when I'm there next.
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In overly hopped Seattle I'm finding myself craving a Negra Modelo and a little bit of sunshine right now.

Favorite of all time though: Pliny the Elder probably takes that honor.
Can't believe forgot about pliney. Took me long time to get a hold of some. Still haven't found the younger though.
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Can't believe forgot about pliney. Took me long time to get a hold of some. Still haven't found the younger though.
Both are tough to come by for sure. It helps that I'm in the beer industry and have some decent "connections." None the less, I've only managed 1 bottle of Elder in the last 3 years.
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Both are tough to come by for sure. It helps that I'm in the beer industry and have some decent "connections." None the less, I've only managed 1 bottle of Elder in the last 3 years.
Hmm I've had 4. And found a place that had it on tap.
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Probably bc it didnt go from cold to hot to cold to hot a million times when in transport.

I spent a month in Italy drinking Peroni and few other local beers. Came back stateside and decided to relive the experience. Bought a sixer of Peroni and was disgusted.
Yep. Its the preservatives that the FDA makes beer producers put in their beer for US consumption. Beer over on this side of the pond(and more so made in Bayern, with its strict, natural beer ingredients) tastes much better.

On the US Bases over here in DE - we can buy the "export beers" made locally. They don't tastes anywhere near as good IF you just go into your local TrinkMarkt(drink market) and buy your beer there. Plus its cheaper too!

The temperature cycling seen in transport also changes the way the beer tastes to the end user. Once a beer is cold... it should remain refrigerated and it should see high temps - that is all too common in the US.

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I was in Bamberg last summer for a few days, and I did taste some of that Rauchbier (maybe a little bit too much )
Very interesting taste, never tasted that before in any beer. Beer and snacks into one is the best I can describe it.
I wonder how they get that taste into there as they cant add anything I believe (Reinheitsgebot)
And I also was at the Spezial-Keller (they seem to pronounce it as 'spätzle keller' or something)
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I was in Bamberg last summer for a few days, and I did taste some of that Rauchbier (maybe a little bit too much )
Very interesting taste, never tasted that before in any beer. Beer and snacks into one is the best I can describe it.
I wonder how they get that taste into there as they cant add anything I believe (Reinheitsgebot)
And I also was at the Spezial-Keller (they seem to pronounce it as 'spätzle keller' or something)
Cool. Small world. Bamberg is a hidden gem among tourist and beer aficionados.

I believe "spätzle keller"(yup, that is how you pronounce it!) they smoke the grain before it goes into the fermenting vats.

Supposedly, as the story goes... the beer was first made on Sandstrasse in the old part of the city... there was a fire in the building(something like ~300 years ago!) and the beer meister/brewer was too cheap to throw away all his hard work! ie: the many thousands of liters of beer that was almost ready to sell. He liked it and sold it with the fire taste from the old timbered beams of the old house. Well... the locals enjoyed it so much... he then had to figure out a way to give the beer it's smokey ham like taste. I am not sure IF this story is true... but it sounds good to me!

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Some locals even dare to say that the Schlenkerla is quite expensive bc you need to drink a few before that smokey taste really comes out!



Btw... I much prefer going to their "other" location up on the Oberer Stephansberg(Upper Stephan's Hill) overlooking the city. There is another bierkeller there called the Wilde Rose and its also a favorite of mine. Actually both breweries have locations downtown in the city... but I prefer the views from up on the hills of Bamberg....

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Cool. Small world. Bamberg is a hidden gem among tourist and beer aficionados.
Yes its nice that its not overcrowded with foreign tourists.
I asked where the nearest money machine was, and they even walk you to it.
In a large city overcrowded with tourists they just ignore you but this felt like a small village.
I found the 'kein Junggesellenabschied' signs interesting. They want to keep the beer to themselves
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