Future BMW model information

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by mmp151

Hi Folks! I’m looking to order a X5, my local dealer who’ve I’ve order from in the past just told me to wait on a 2023 model year allocation because he’s expecting an announcement on the X5 LCI for the 2023 model year. He mentioned the 2022 model year production ends in July, and mentioned that the next run would include iDrive8, front / rear design tweaks etc. This forum says the LCI isn’t planned until next year. Curious if anyone has any more insider info?

All the info you need is in the top post.

The dealer is wrong as usual.

[Game]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

All the info you need is in the top post.

The dealer is wrong as usual.

I can attest dealerships are plenty wrong.

Question is, will the LCI be labeled a '24?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Game

Question is, will the LCI be labeled a '24?

Yes.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by Frosty

It's a combination of philosophical choice and a preference for cloth interiors. There is a starting trend towards premium, sustainable, non-animal based interiors and I was wondering if the G87 might apply what we see in the likes of Tesla and Porsche in some models. I'd pay a premium for the option personally.

The Cashmere upholstery offered in 7/i7 is part of an option pack that costs over €28,000. I don't see this filtering down to the M2 or anything else.

[MoralFiber]

If the LCI starts at april 2023 for the X5, when are you typically able to order it at the dealer? How many months before production starts are you able to order a new car ?

In case of the X5 is it realistic that you will be able to order in (the end of) 22 ?

[xlover]

Originally Posted by MoralFiber

If the LCI starts at april 2023 for the X5, when are you typically able to order it at the dealer? How many months before production starts are you able to order a new car ?

In case of the X5 is it realistic that you will be able to order in (the end of) 22 ?

Probably Feb '23, possibly March

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by xlover

Probably Feb '23, possibly March

April

[xlover]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

April

Production start is April on the G05 LCI it is highly likely that ordering will be available a month or two before

[Fernandoazevedo+]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Looking forward to the G60 5-Series. Probably coming out in 2023.

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Looking forward to the G60 5-Series. Probably coming out in 2023.

I know that your only reporting, but with BMW NA portfolio sales of 60% X vehicles, maybe production shifts to South Africa for the ex NA market to make room for 4 series and 5 series production in Spartanburg to hedge against the threat EU tariffs? If so, the ED program would be history.

[Purekoryo]

Has it been confirmed that M3 will also have the CSL badge? This source implies as much. Maybe they'll retain the back seats as it wouldn't make sense to have M4 AND M3 with rear seat deletes

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...-csl-spy-shots

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Purekoryo

Has it been confirmed that M3 will also have the CSL badge? This source implies as much. Maybe they'll retain the back seats as it wouldn't make sense to have M4 AND M3 with rear seat deletes

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...-csl-spy-shots

They are wrong. There will be no L.

[atl_1M]

Any word on G87 M2 CS or CSL variants and if they'll be offered in manual?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by atl_1M

Any word on G87 M2 CS or CSL variants and if they'll be offered in manual?

Too early for that.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by atl_1M

Any word on G87 M2 CS or CSL variants and if they'll be offered in manual?

There will not be a M2CSL

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

There will not be a M2CSL

Depends on what can be done. At the moment nothing is fully committed to. As they have to launch the standard M2.

They have only started to show the finished car although I have not seen it myself yet.
Remember That bumper which we have all become accustomed to.
It Appears to be far more impressive now that intake details are finally shown and not just a huge space. The car appears to be showing more "angular" details at the front and rear. Apparently the squared headlights make it all work.

It blends in with typical 2 dr outline and the arch blisters that are more pronounced than the standard 2.
You can actually see this in angled spy photographs (Look at the car coming towards you)

There are two new colours that pay Hommage to the 2002 Hommage Concepts. Zandvoort Blue and another Orange-Red colour which I did not get the name of. I don't know if they are showing it with the "finished" Touring and something frozen in Brooklyn Grey? Or a new stand alone flavour of "Extra-Boost Energie" drink mixed with a label of Scottish Whiskey?

[scLA]

Is the rumored i4 xDrive40 (400hp) still in the works for this November? I find that hard to believe given how much demand there is for the eDrive40 and dealers now quoting delivery times into 2023. Is it possible all of the late year delivery times automatically get switched to the xDrive or would they be downgraded to the eDrive35?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by slazLA

Is the rumored i4 xDrive40 (400hp) still in the works for this November? I find that hard to believe given how much demand there is for the eDrive40 and dealers now quoting delivery times into 2023. Is it possible all of the late year delivery times automatically get switched to the xDrive or would they be downgraded to the eDrive35?

I always have to repeat the caveat that any model can be cancelled by the management regardless of its development status. With that in mind - yes, the xDrive40 is still in the works with the planned November start of production.

[atl_1M]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Too early for that.

Ok, do you know if M2 Competition will be available in manual or only the base M2 (assuming there is a base)?

[mmp151]

Originally Posted by Game

I can attest dealerships are plenty wrong.

Question is, will the LCI be labeled a '24?

Thanks folks. My dealer is sticking strong that the LCI is coming this year as a 2023 model year. I’m floored cause they could easily make money on me for a 2022 model year X5 but have suggested I wait for the LCI.

[Goldsurf]

Originally Posted by mmp151

Thanks folks. My dealer is sticking strong that the LCI is coming this year as a 2023 model year. I’m floored cause they could easily make money on me for a 2022 model year X5 but have suggested I wait for the LCI.

Actually they probably don’t have MY22 allocations left so.. and they’re 100% wrong since we’d have more leaks of non-camo’d test drives if release was imminent.

[Game]

Originally Posted by Goldsurf

Actually they probably don't have MY22 allocations left so.. and they're 100% wrong since we'd have more leaks of non-camo'd test drives if release was imminent.

Originally Posted by mmp151

Thanks folks. My dealer is sticking strong that the LCI is coming this year as a 2023 model year. I'm floored cause they could easily make money on me for a 2022 model year X5 but have suggested I wait for the LCI.

Originally Posted by Goldsurf

Actually they probably don't have MY22 allocations left so.. and they're 100% wrong since we'd have more leaks of non-camo'd test drives if release was imminent.

Correct. If there were an LCI this year they would've launched it alongside the X7 with them both going into production in July.

[redlineblog]

Any news on the F40 LCI? We're seeing spy pics regularly now, though the top post doesn't say anything about a facelift.

Or are these prototypes mules for the F70?