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03-10-2023, 10:16 PM | #89 |
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03-10-2023, 10:42 PM | #90 |
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You are correct. BMW was good for me, owned a few of them, and then it wasn't so I moved on. I don't believe in brand loyalty and I'm not the only one. Many former BMW owners stuck around here long after they cut ties with the brand.
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03-11-2023, 01:53 PM | #91 |
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I was just bustin' your chops a little . I'm only "brand loyal" until there is a reason not to be. There are a brands I will not even consider, which, now that I've been spoiled, include all the American brands for various reasons. After years of FWD appliances (and buying into the propaganda), I've become a RWD snob, which limits my options.
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03-13-2023, 05:03 PM | #92 |
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No kids? SUVs are awesome and the newer ones feel more and more like cars. The X3 and X5 loaners I had handled better than cars from 10 years ago.
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For me, the VW Atlas checked the boxes. Value was excellent, I paid MSRP during the pandemic, its huge, utilitarian, and imho looks great with the sideboards. Not the most reliable since we've had a few minor recalls, but mechanically it's been great. Floaty and not the greatest to drive, but like you, it's for the wife and kids so it doesn't matter.
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03-13-2023, 05:34 PM | #94 |
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No kids. When that happens will definitely need one SUV in the household. But it'll never be my personal driver. Some like the Macan, Stelvio, X3M are pretty good to drive but still don't possess that light low and oversteer-capable experience of proper sport sedans.
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03-13-2023, 06:53 PM | #96 |
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I almost feel like the reverse of some of the comments... if ur to have an only car or a car that necessitates any practicality, imho, you should strictly have an SUV as your first car. The modern SUVs offer a ton comfort, awesome livability and some more sporty ones like x3 m40i or X5 offer a good driving experience.
I almost question why would anyone buy a 3 series or 5 series if they aren't M cars lol? They offer nothing outside of a lower CG which in a 5 series... who cares? Performance is clearly not your focus and modern SUVs offer far more in usability than they lose in performance to the comparabale sedan. My perfect garage is a sports car w my suv and I am good... m3, m4, m2 comp or the like.
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I don’t like SUVs - huge penalty in upfront costs, and ownership costs, for moderate increase in convenience. Heaven forbid you want to drive for fun, now you are throwing a school bus around curvy roads.
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03-15-2023, 10:44 AM | #98 |
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Have you ever driven an X# with DHP, IAS, M-xDrive, etc? In my X7 its very impressive, believe the X5 can have all that and must be crazy, all of that in an X3M if available would prolly beat most sports cars from 20-30 yrs ago on the track.
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There just aren't many choices of fun to drive <4000lb vehicles anymore. And I mean fun to drive "for me" not for everyone. |
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03-15-2023, 01:34 PM | #100 |
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Sub 4k lol almost nothing is under that fun or not, isn't the new M3 3990 and the F90 M5 is close to what 4500lbs. Ah the days back when my Z3 was sub 3000lbs.
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That’s why you get both. Different tools for different tasks.
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LOL that mentality is dangerous, it requires more than two, and you end up with 6 cars like me.
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I have - x5m - super fun to drive, especially with dinan exhaust
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I feel like 3 and 4-pot motors have too shitty working culture. Some of the petrol ones still sound like a diesel, so what's the point? Everything with more than 6 pots is far too unreliable if bought used, at least from my experience. I'd have no problem buying 8, 10 or 12-pot as new, and doing maintenance my way though. |
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Piezoelectric are much quieter but expensive.
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