World Premiere: The BMW Vision Neue Klasse X.

[swainbmw]

Originally Posted by AP

Hate the Tesla like tablet slapped in the middle of the dash approach
That alone will stop me considering this straightaway
Maybe that’s an age thing ( I’m late fifties)

Same here on age 57 not crazy about the screen / iPad in middle lack of buttons may have my current 5 for many years Not crazy about the Jetsons look

[Windshieldfarmer]

Originally Posted by swainbmw

Same here on age 57 not crazy about the screen / iPad in middle lack of buttons may have my current 5 for many years Not crazy about the Jetsons look.

You people make me sad…I’m 64 and plan to embrace the new technology and all the changes that are coming. Can’t fight the future! My neighbor purchased a restored 69 Chevelle…once a car of my dreams. My gosh I forgot how poorly they ride and drive…the future is better than the past (regarding cars)

[swainbmw]

Originally Posted by Windshieldfarmer

You people make me sad…I’m 64 and plan to embrace the new technology and all the changes that are coming. Can’t fight the future! My neighbor purchased a restored 69 Chevelle…once a car of my dreams. My gosh I forgot how poorly they ride and drive…the future is better than the past (regarding cars)

I’m much into new technology also, but when it starts getting too plain / flat is where it loses me in the lack of interest

[Windshieldfarmer]

Originally Posted by swainbmw

I’m much into new technology also, but when it starts getting too plain / flat is where it loses me in the lack of interest

I know what your saying but I don’t want everyone on this board thinking the old people are trying to spoil the party!

[swainbmw]

Originally Posted by Windshieldfarmer

I know what your saying but I don’t want everyone on this board thinking the old people are trying to spoil the party!

It’s just gotta be moving. It has to stir the soul give you the drive and inspire you to want. It

[outie]

Originally Posted by FrozenGT

Tesla is an appliance. It’s not a car. It’s junk slap together with glue. Rivian, Porsche, Audi and BMW are Real car manufactures, trying to create a difference.

If you bought a Tesla that’s fine but Tesla people are not car people and that’s just how it is. There’s a bazillion Teslas in my neighborhood where I live and the people who drive them are not interested in styling or performance or handling.. they are only interested in electrical appliances feel.

Very exciting for BMW. This feels like BMW is back.

LOL says what? Who else makes a practical 7 seater EV with tons of cargo space? I have a Model X, a Taycan GTS, and a McLaren 720s. No one doubts I am not a car person. In fact I don’t really care what others think when I drive my Model X around.

[AP]

I too am not against new technology. I am against inappropriate technology or gimicky technology
I also hate it when something is changed and it is not actually better than what was before, ie it doesn’t actually work better
An example would be gesture control
It’s clever , I wail grant you but does it work aswell as a button? It works 100% of the time?

Touchscreen really I feel is not the right type of interface in a car , particularly when on the move.
Aston Martin with thei new db12 seemed to have got the balance right , have a look at that. Buttons for all the stuff you need day to day and no tablet slapped in the middle

I like some of the new tech in the cars like the semiautonomous driving features which I use a lot

I won’t rant on for ages . Styling wise it’s ok ish but I don’t warm to it at the moment.

[FrozenGT]

[FrozenGT]

Originally Posted by outie

LOL says what? Who else makes a practical 7 seater EV with tons of cargo space? I have a Model X, a Taycan GTS, and a McLaren 720s. No one doubts I am not a car person. In fact I don’t really care what others think when I drive my Model X around.

You should then know better- why you in BMW form if you don’t own a BMW?

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by FrozenGT

tl;dr
1) appliance commuter car - slightly better than before

(Btw- In the US the price of a new 3 dual motor is about the same as model Y long range (Y inventory is marked down and new is about a $2k delta, not taking into account applicable tax credits which make the Y about $6k less).

2) autopilot is inferior to others like Merc and BMW

(I would note that FSD $12k is not autopilot, nor advanced autopilot $6k- this basic autopilot is lane keep assist and variable cruise control. FOC is phantom braking, which means I don’t use it anymore.)

3) boring for mindless commuting

4) stalks have been removed (this would keep me from buying a new Tesla)

Yes, I agree with all his points having owned a couple of these.

[Laguna Seca Blue]

Like it! Think the love will come with time, as radical designs tend to take a little time to wrap one’s head around completely.

Vertical Kidneys add a cool retro vibe, and I’m so glad this thing has a strong well defined hoffmeister kink. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again — a BMW without one is not a bmw at all. Sorry G82, it’s not your jaw that offends me but your hips

[DarkstarZero]

It feels like all modern BMWs are designed by committee, where everyone's opinion matters and no one is ever told "no". One group does the headlights, one group does the kidney grills, etc. Then they shove them together at the end. It doesn't feel cohesive. It doesn't feel like one designers vision. It feels like a hodgepodge of different ideas.

[S EyeLand]

Originally Posted by jphcbpa

ummmmmmmmm

it's different

Larry rocks the iX in Curb.. he might like this.

[Evinrude1975]

The car in the video is much better than the music

[Blue Angel]

I really like it, much more than the sedan actually. It looks complete, the sedan looks too minimalist.

Though I must admit when I saw the front for the first time I thought of Angry Birds, lol.

[heavyD^2]

People have been complaining about big grilles here for years and they go back to classic E30 style and people still complain. Designing automobiles today has to be one of the more thankless jobs these says having to deal with today's outrage culture. I love it as it's unmistakably BMW and strikes a nice balance between past and present.

[SportySpice]

Originally Posted by Windshieldfarmer

Are you referencing Tesla only or BMW also. The Neue Klasse also appears to have minimal physical buttons. The industry is going this direction. My 87 year old father didn’t want push button start on his new car, but he was forced to acquiesce to a new reality. This will likely happen with physical buttons….on all cars. Resistance is Futile!!

Referring to any car, including BMW.

[Blue Angel]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

People have been complaining about big grilles here for years and they go back to classic E30 style and people still complain. Designing automobiles today has to be one of the more thankless jobs these says having to deal with today's outrage culture. I love it as it's unmistakably BMW and strikes a nice balance between past and present.

Agreed, though I will say that BMW has been asking for it the last few years!

This new design language works very well.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

People have been complaining about big grilles here for years and they go back to classic E30 style and people still complain.

I'm one who still hates the current pig nose grilles, they haven't grown on me one bit. This exterior design looks great. I dig the 70/80's retro vibe. Hopefully the illumination aspect doesn't make production. The Tesla-style interior is questionable, but that is the trend of all EVs.

[VANOS]

Why is BMW making their cars so ugly! YOU DID SO WELL WITH THE 5, then this crap! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[Tomduck]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

People have been complaining about big grilles here for years and they go back to classic E30 style and people still complain. Designing automobiles today has to be one of the more thankless jobs these says having to deal with today's outrage culture. I love it as it's unmistakably BMW and strikes a nice balance between past and present.

People like to moan, just look at Twitter where for no reason whatsoever apart from apparent boredom they knock everything down for the fun of it. Extremely sad part of many people’s physiological makeup.

[Leinad85008]

I like everything about it except for the pig nose front end.