Group of NYC bicyclists attack BMW in broad daylight, wild video shows

MKSixer · 12-30-2020, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Noneya

Sincere belief is not the same as a reasonable belief. You will go to prison if you kill a random passerby because you're sincerely scared of black people.

Do you not understand that the belief is centered only on the person who believed that they were in danger and not some interpretation from others?

Of course you go to the most unreasonable example to make your, "point".

And I wouldn't have that problem because I'd be afraid of myself.

You're a real piece of work.

longm1985 · 12-30-2020, 10:58 PM

I haven't read any replies, just wanted to say I'm extremely impressed that the driver had enough restraint from running them over.

Noneya · 12-30-2020, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

Do you not understand that the belief is centered only on the person who believed that they were in danger and not some interpretation from others?

Of course you go to the most unreasonable example to make your, "point".

And I wouldn't have that problem because I'd be afraid of myself.

You're a real piece of work.

Of course I go to the most unreasonable example, because that's the easiest way to show the mistake in your statement.

I honestly don't understand the rest of what you wrote.

MKSixer · 12-30-2020, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Noneya

Of course I go to the most unreasonable example, because that's the easiest way to show the mistake in your statement.

I honestly don't understand the rest of what you wrote.

You still don't understand that the application of reasonability is with the person under duress, alone. It's plainly written in the legal example YOU provided. Like many defending a wrong assessment, you are looking at a specific portion of the law instead of the law in its entirety.

Turkish Pickle · 12-31-2020, 12:16 AM

LMAO "I'd drive back slowly and carefully to not hit them to avoid getting canceled"

It's not like you're doing something offensive to 18-21 year olds working towards a "liberal arts" degree

You'll be fine. Better than that dude a few years ago in the Range Rover who got his shit kicked in for being too much of a pussy to put his life and safety first.

cmyx6go · 12-31-2020, 06:22 AM

They arrested a 15 year old. 15! And the same group terrorized a cab driver, broke his windows and hit him with their bike when he got out of the car.

The Libertine · 12-31-2020, 07:35 AM

Just another illustration of how much society, in general, (not just NY) has deteriorated.

RickFLM4 · 12-31-2020, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cmyx6go

They arrested a 15 year old. 15! And the same group terrorized a cab driver, broke his windows and hit him with their bike when he got out of the car.

Well we all hope he is met with kindness when he gets to prison. Or maybe the thought of that kindness will get him to give up the other animals involved.

cmyx6go · 12-31-2020, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RickFLM4

Well we all hope he is met with kindness when he gets to prison. Or maybe the thought of that kindness will get him to give up the other animals involved.

Doubt he’ll get prison time. He’s being charged as a juvenile and is probably home already.

RickFLM4 · 12-31-2020, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Doubt he’ll get prison time. He’s being charged as a juvenile and is probably home already.

You are probably right, but he'll get there eventually.

MKSixer · 12-31-2020, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cmyx6go

They arrested a 15 year old. 15! And the same group terrorized a cab driver, broke his windows and hit him with their bike when he got out of the car.

Oh. 15...poor baby. What have we done wrong?!?!!

Noneya, what do you have to say about this?

Noneya · 12-31-2020, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

Oh. 15...poor baby. What have we done wrong?!?!!

Noneya, what do you have to say about this?

I have no idea what you want me to say. If you thought I ever expressed anything but dismay at their actions you should blame the same lack of reading comprehension that makes you think the law will let you get away with killing anyone just because you feel scared.

zx10guy · 12-31-2020, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Doubt he’ll get prison time. He’s being charged as a juvenile and is probably home already.

Doesn't even matter if he wasn't a juvenile. NYC's policy of catch and release and not worry about posting bond took care of that.

floridaorange · 12-31-2020, 09:23 AM

I can't believe i'm posting again in this thread.

If I'm in my car or SUV and you and your "group" of teenagers jump on my hood while I'm in my car with my wife - and are smashing my windows - I'm driving away. If you don't want to be driven over or hit by my car or suv, I suggest you don't jump on my hood and try to smash my windows.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Efthreeoh · 12-31-2020, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Noneya

This is nonsense. Your evaluation of danger could be so terrible that you'd start shooting at people for looking at you "wrong".

So this is where your logic fails. MKSixer is writing with respect to a normal human, who possesses a rational thought process and was raised with a sense of morals and care for his fellow human being. A sane and rational person does not shoot at other people just because he thinks that person "looked at him wrong".

That type of irrational human is the one that catapults off the hood of an X3 and onto the roof, crushing the windshield.

This is why I said earlier in this thread that there are absolutes. For some reason, our current society is raising people who lack the understanding of absolutes.

MKSixer · 12-31-2020, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Noneya

I have no idea what you want me to say. If you thought I ever expressed anything but dismay at their actions you should blame the same lack of reading comprehension that makes you think the law will let you get away with killing anyone just because you feel scared.

Typical Limousine Liberal.

JP10 · 12-31-2020, 10:02 AM

Imagine if you could send an electrical current through the exterior of your vehicle, not enough to kill them, just a good tase. Would be neat although you would have to determine how to un-ground your vehicle for a short period of time... hmmm. Unless you have the current recirculate before it reaches the ground. It would most likely have to be a separate power supply to your vehicle as you wouldn't want a fault to leave you stranded. Might be possible, although there would definitely be some safety concerns.

Can I get an electrician/EE over here to do some brainstorming!?

Noneya · 12-31-2020, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

Typical Limousine Liberal.

Don't stop at just throwing a pejorative - feel free to elaborate.

Noneya · 12-31-2020, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

So this is where your logic fails. MKSixer is writing with respect to a normal human, who possesses a rational thought process and was raised with a sense of morals and care for his fellow human being. A sane and rational person does not shoot at other people just because he thinks that person "looked at him wrong".

That type of irrational human is the one that catapults off the hood of an X3 and onto the roof, crushing the windshield.

This is why I said earlier in this thread that there are absolutes. For some reason, our current society is raising people who lack the understanding of absolutes.

That's a very generous interpretation. He had plenty of opportunities to back off from incorrect part of his statement which he refused to take.

Noneya · 12-31-2020, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JP10

Imagine if you could send an electrical current through the exterior of your vehicle, not enough to kill them, just a good tase. Would be neat although you would have to determine how to un-ground your vehicle for a short period of time... hmmm. Unless you have the current recirculate before it reaches the ground. It would most likely have to be a separate power supply to your vehicle as you wouldn't want a fault to leave you stranded. Might be possible, although there would definitely be some safety concerns.

Can I get an electrician/EE over here to do some brainstorming!?

The car is not grounded since it's sitting on thick insulator rubber. Didn't Tesla do this at some point (perhaps as a stunt)?

chief1richard · 12-31-2020, 10:29 AM

Violence like this is why there is a mass exodus from the usual crime ridden Cities. I used to visit NYC regularly when it was considered "safe". Even then you needed eyes in the back of your head and be constantly aware of your surroundings. I will not risk my safety in that city again. The inmates are running the Asylum.

NickyC · 12-31-2020, 10:43 AM

Perfect World: SUV driver slams on the gas, hits the brakes quickly, then slams on the gas again. The more bumps felt the better as he/she drives to safety.

Imperfect World: Pacified SUV driver scared to death of defending himself/herself due to shitty MSM and social media lunatic brainwashing.

I just hope everyone had a mask on or I cannot comprehend how awful all participants in this video would be.

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