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      02-22-2016, 10:59 PM   #89
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34. Why would I want them earlier
Why would you want them after either.
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I'm 34 and my GF is 30. No kids. Not having them...EVER. No marriage either.
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People are always talking about how they'll be ____ age when the kids are finally 18 and out of the house.

If having kids is more of a punishment sentence, then just don't have them. Mankind will push on without you.
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If you wait until you're "ready", you'll never have kids.
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I was 24 when I had my first. I'll be 45 when my last one moves out of the house and 50 by the time I'm done paying for college. Why did I have kids so early? So I can retire early and laugh at my friends who are still paying for college up until their retirement age of 62. I don't think I know anyone in the Boston area who had kids before they turned 30. The norm here for the first kid is mid 30's.
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People are always talking about how they'll be ____ age when the kids are finally 18 and out of the house.

If having kids is more of a punishment sentence, then just don't have them. Mankind will push on without you.
It's not a punishment for myself, it's more of a punishment for the kid. My dad is too damn old to stuff with me.

I'm thinking about the kid. If my kid enjoys cars as much as I do, then it won't be a problem since I predict I will still be able to do that. But if the kid likes excessive outdoor activities, I may need to be on the bench

Regarding the 18 and out of the house, that's not necessarily true - if he stays locally, I would gladly let him stay at home so he has an easier time to save up for a house early into his professional career. Nothing beats that.
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I was 24 when I had my first. I'll be 45 when my last one moves out of the house and 50 by the time I'm done paying for college. Why did I have kids so early? So I can retire early and laugh at my friends who are still paying for college up until their retirement age of 62. I don't think I know anyone in the Boston area who had kids before they turned 30. The norm here for the first kid is mid 30's.
It never dawned on me how valuable time is after 50, more valuable than money (someone who retired at 53 from the rule of 75 explained it to me)...sounds like you're in good shape. I'll be 60 when my son graduates HS, my wife will be 36....I can't even imagine getting up at 3:30 to drive him to a hockey tournament when I'm 59, I'm tired just thinking about it
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I was 24 when I had my first. I'll be 45 when my last one moves out of the house and 50 by the time I'm done paying for college. Why did I have kids so early? So I can retire early and laugh at my friends who are still paying for college up until their retirement age of 62. I don't think I know anyone in the Boston area who had kids before they turned 30. The norm here for the first kid is mid 30's.
Or....not have kids and retire at 50...?

Early in our relationship, when we were dating, the wife and I saw 'great parents' in each other.

As time (and careers) developed - children never became a priority.

Our lifestyle now is simply not conducive to children. Don't get me wrong - her brother has 2 AMAZING kids that I dearly love, and spend as much time as I can with them.
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Our lifestyle now is simply not conducive to children.
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...Oh, long term care insurance is WAAAYY cheaper than kids....just sayin.
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I was 24 when I had my first. I'll be 45 when my last one moves out of the house and 50 by the time I'm done paying for college. Why did I have kids so early? So I can retire early and laugh at my friends who are still paying for college up until their retirement age of 62. I don't think I know anyone in the Boston area who had kids before they turned 30. The norm here for the first kid is mid 30's.
26 number 1 and 30 number too Im 31 now and wife is 32

same boat as this guy^^^^, Im a fireman and its very family oriented and the dudes who had kids young take 6 vacations a year and I always look at the guys in their late 30s early 40s who have a 3 year and think to myself my oldest will be 14 at his age. it was hard for me at 26...really hard but it gets better and I cant wait to laugh at all my other buddies when my kids are 10-6 and they are going through the infant stage. Being the first out of my circle of friends made it hard too. i could never imagine having kids at 40, The toll an infant/toddler takes and your mind and body..... I also want to be young youthful dad that can play all the sports and do crazy stuff with the kidos (cliff jumping ect). I had a great job and she finshed her DR. after number 1 (smart girl)

the wife and I find time to go to miami, vegas every year with out the kids.

They always talk about the cost of college but no one warned me about the 2k a month in daycare/ preschool..(you only get to write off 5k total to boot)
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#goals
Ha Ha!!

I just meant we work all the time, kids would be left on their own - or raised by a nanny...

I will say, when we want to take a quick trip or even extended vaca....I get my neighbor to feed the animals and we just go....
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Ha Ha!!

I just meant we work all the time, kids would be left on their own - or raised by a nanny...

I will say, when we want to take a quick trip or even extended vaca....I get my neighbor to feed the animals and we just go....
It is this simplicity of life that I debate daily, whether or not to subject the perfect body of a woman to childbirth, and to dispose of already sleepless nights due to my relentless ambition in lieu of having a child.

I would rather be like the childless, more well-off individuals on this forum, to whom I shall strive to emulate in the future.
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It is this simplicity of life that I debate daily, whether or not to subject the perfect body of a woman to childbirth, and to dispose of already sleepless nights due to my relentless ambition in lieu of having a child.

I would rather be like the childless, more well-off individuals on this forum, to whom I shall strive to emulate in the future.
until wife finds our childish behavior on this great forum!
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until wife finds our childish behavior on this great forum!
shhhhhh.. no wife yet doe.
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Or....not have kids and retire at 50...?

Early in our relationship, when we were dating, the wife and I saw 'great parents' in each other.

As time (and careers) developed - children never became a priority.

Our lifestyle now is simply not conducive to children. Don't get me wrong - her brother has 2 AMAZING kids that I dearly love, and spend as much time as I can with them.
Because I wanted kids? Didn't get the boy that I wanted, but I taught my daughter how to change a tire when she was in 4th grade. Hopefully she'll be a forum member here in a few years when she inherits my Zed.


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26 number 1 and 30 number too Im 31 now and wife is 32

same boat as this guy^^^^, Im a fireman and its very family oriented and the dudes who had kids young take 6 vacations a year and I always look at the guys in their late 30s early 40s who have a 3 year and think to myself my oldest will be 14 at his age. it was hard for me at 26...really hard but it gets better and I cant wait to laugh at all my other buddies when my kids are 10-6 and they are going through the infant stage. Being the first out of my circle of friends made it hard too. i could never imagine having kids at 40, The toll an infant/toddler takes and your mind and body..... I also want to be young youthful dad that can play all the sports and do crazy stuff with the kidos (cliff jumping ect). I had a great job and she finshed her DR. after number 1 (smart girl)

the wife and I find time to go to miami, vegas every year with out the kids.

They always talk about the cost of college but no one warned me about the 2k a month in daycare/ preschool..(you only get to write off 5k total to boot)
Very similar story here. Both my wife and I went back to school to get masters degrees after having kids. Daycare was expensive, but it was a pleasant surprise to have an extra $2000/mo of cash flow after my youngest started kindergarten (our daycare costs were over $3k/mo, but we still have to pay a babysitter around $1000/mo to watch the kids for a couple hours after school). I could've spent the extra cash on a P-car, but I decided to save it so I could retire early instead. My pre-owned roadster is plenty fun for me at a fraction of the cost.
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Twixboy - not judging, simply offering a different perspective.

I can offer that people who meet me and learn that we don't have children ask, "do you have a medical condition or reason for not having children?"

It is weird how many people ask us 'why' we did not have children...like I walk around asking people who have children the same question
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Twixboy - not judging, simply offering a different perspective.

I can offer that people who meet me and learn that we don't have children ask, "do you have a medical condition or reason for not having children?"

It is weird how many people ask us 'why' we did not have children...like I walk around asking people who have children the same question
Weird. I would simply punch them in the face. Crazy that people would ask that. I think my stock response to "Why don't you have kids?" would be "Because we know how to use birth control."
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They always talk about the cost of college but no one warned me about the 2k a month in daycare/ preschool..(you only get to write off 5k total to boot)
Exactly. Daycare and preschool costs are seriously eating into my track budget.
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