Horner in trouble at Red Bull

[Killed by Death]

And bros,,,,please don't take me so seriously!!! I'm just here to have fun

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Actually I searched, Red Bull hasn't officially announced the reason she was suspended. Others have speculated it was for being untruthful. In my experience that makes sense but it isn't a fact.

As it was an 'internal' investigation then these details wouldn't come out apart from if a.n. other woman would go public. If she was offered 1M $ or whatever to go, more speculation maybe then surely going to a tribunal? would negate that settlement that is if it was offered in the first place.

[Killed by Death]

The situation concerning Christian Horner and a female Red Bull Racing employee has remained relatively quiet lately, but it's far from completely settled. The woman involved has appealed to Red Bull GmbH against the decision to clear Horner of any wrongdoing. Additionally, a complaint has been filed with the FIA's Ethics Commission regarding the matter. As for the woman herself, she has chosen to remain silent on the issue.
The confidentiality agreement signed by all parties, including the woman and Christian Horner, explains the silence surrounding the matter. It's unclear whether this agreement was signed under duress. According to information from a close friend of the woman involved, the woman is only permitted to discuss the issue with her father and brother.
“It's impossible for people to understand what it's like for her," said the friend, who spoke to BBC Sport on condition of anonymity.
"She can't talk and she won't talk. But I can tell you what it is doing to her. Every time I have asked her something, she breaks down in tears and says she's got no-one to talk to because she's not allowed to talk. She is very upset, very angry, very scared, very intimidated, very lonely. And I think it's impossible for people to understand without being in her shoes what it's like for her."
VIA: [gpblog.com]

[Sneaky Pete]

Did she not also turn down some considerable $$ offers to give the case up.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

As it was an 'internal' investigation then these details wouldn't come out apart from if a.n. other woman would go public. If she was offered 1M $ or whatever to go, more speculation maybe then surely going to a tribunal? would negate that settlement that is if it was offered in the first place.

She (NC) is back at the Red Bull Team ! => https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/26829...s-interim.html

A F1 soap-Episode 5 : - I got $1Million and I'll be back -

LMFAO

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

She (NC) is back at the Red Bull Team ! => https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/26829...s-interim.html

A F1 soap-Episode 5 : - I got $1Million and I'll be back -

LMFAO

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=i+...5V-cst6TY,st:0

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

She (NC) is back at the Red Bull Team ! => https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/26829...s-interim.html

A F1 soap-Episode 5 : - I got $1Million and I'll be back -

LMFAO

My friend I have a song saved for CH concerning NC, want to hear it?

[M5Rick]

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

My friend I have a song saved for CH concerning NC, want to hear it?

I got a song for her too

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

She (NC) is back at the Red Bull Team ! => https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/26829...s-interim.html

A F1 soap-Episode 5 : - I got $1Million and I'll be back -

LMFAO

The article references a woman called Nicole Carling.

The employee who filed a complaint against Horner has a different name.

So two different persons.

[M5Rick]

^ Yes its possibly a previous employee before the accuser that has returned to manage CH's official appointments.

[G MONEY]

The whole team should come out in the next race on unicycles wearing red noses and juggling bowling pins 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Artemis

"Verstappen addresses speculation over F1 future after being linked with move away from Red Bull"
F1 - March 21, 2024
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...H4SuSJueAXSyY0
"“I think there’s every reason to be happy, right?” Verstappen responded. “The car’s going really well, there’s so many great people in the team that are constantly pushing for better results, so for me that’s what I focus on.
“I focus on the performance, I’m happy, and when I go home, I don’t think about any other thing because it’s pretty fixed where I’m at also, and that’s also where I want to be.”"

Related but in an opposite, positive way. No secret that there is lots of mutual respect and appreciation between Verstappen and Honda. Do you consider it conceivable that Verstappen would follow Honda to Aston Martin (targeted by Aramco) (based in Silverstone) from 2026 onwards (cf. March 2023 deal struck between Honda and AM), knowing that Red Bull will switch from Honda to Ford/RBR Powertrains engines from 2026 onwards ? Aramco is rumored to be willing to offer Verstappen and Newey an intergalactic salary to get them on board in the near future. Mercedes is also interested to get Verstappen, but of course uses Mercedes engines and has no pockets as deep as Aramco to pay a top driver a mind-boggling salary.

Why moving when it's OK where you are (apart from the Horner situation) ? Also Hamilton made a bold move in 2013 to switch from McLaren to the less competitive Mercedes car. The 2014 'hybrid' regs and 2022 regs reshuffled the landscape. The 2026 regs may reshuffle the landscape yet again. And Verstappen achieved major F1 success with Honda engines.

"Honda to Participate in FIA Formula One® World Championship from 2026"
Honda - May 24, 2023
https://www.honda-mideast.com/en/news/F1-2026

Honda trivia: Prost told in a 2021 interview that during his time as team mate of Senna he had noticed someday that a new set of Honda engines flown in from Japan featured a "Special For Ayrton" message (from 19:00 onwards here). Honda was fond of Senna.

"Verstappen does not rule out switch to Aston Martin in advance
4 April - 06:00 | Kada Sarkozi
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/26801...tin-honda.html
A big question mark continues to hang over Max Verstappen's future. Also in Japan, the Dutchman was asked his current situation at Red Bull Racing and options at other teams.
"No, it all depends on if I want to also drive next year or not," said Max Verstappen when asked about transfer rumours during the press conference in Japan. Indeed, why would Verstappen see any reason to leave the, currently, mighty Red Bull Racing? "From my side, no, I'm very happy where I'm at. And, yes, we want to keep it that way."
Does Verstappen fancy a move to Aston Martin?
Verstappen also made no secret during the press moment of his good relationship with Honda. The deal with the engine partner, who also own the Suzuka circuit, expires at the end of 2025. Honda will then enter into a new partnership with Aston Martin. So is that a team where Verstappen sees himself driving?
"I don't know. Doesn't mean necessarily ‘26 or whatever, right? I mean, I have a contract with Red Bull until ‘28. After that, I first want to see if I actually even want to continue. That's, for me, the most important, not so much about where. So these kind of things I don't really think about at the moment."
Besides Honda, Aston Martin is also said to be working on the arrival of a second party with which Verstappen has a good relationship. Indeed, according to recent rumours, the British team is said to be working on bringing Adrian Newey to Silverstone.


(picture source: here)

[Artemis]

Earlier this week Dutch former F1 driver Robert Doornbos claimed to have heard a couple of scoops from a reliable source ("my trusty little bird"):

• Verstappen is already having talks with Mercedes, purely to see one-on-one what the feeling is for the future;
• Verstappen has had an open conversation with Helmut Marko explaining that he will also sound out now what is possible with the competition;
• behind closed doors down at RBR there is still a lot going on - more to come this month;
• Adrian Newey is bothered by the Horner complaint controversy and will not extend his RBR contract (ending at the end of the 2025 season);
• after the Suzuka race, Perez (P2) asked RBR for a 3-year contract extension; but according to Doornbos Marko does not favor a long-term contract for Perez.

Source (Dutch):
https://www.f1maximaal.nl/opinie/doo...rko-weet-ervan
https://www.f1maximaal.nl/formule-1/...-contract-niet

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Earlier this week Dutch former F1 driver Robert Doornbos claimed to have heard a couple of scoops from a reliable source ("my trusty little bird"):

• Verstappen is already having talks with Mercedes, purely to see one-on-one what the feeling is for the future;
• Verstappen has had an open conversation with Helmut Marko explaining that he will also sound out now what is possible with the competition;
• behind closed doors down at RBR there is still a lot going on - more to come this month;
• Adrian Newey is bothered by the Horner complaint controversy and will not extend his RBR contract (ending at the end of the 2025 season);
• after the Suzuka race, Perez (P2) asked RBR for a 3-year contract extension; but according to Doornbos Marko does not favor a long-term contract for Perez.

Source (Dutch):
https://www.f1maximaal.nl/opinie/doo...rko-weet-ervan
https://www.f1maximaal.nl/formule-1/...-contract-niet

It has very little to do with Horner's (love-soap) affair.
MAX is already thinking about the new PU regulations in 2026.
Regarding the HP output ,they already know : The 2026 Mercedes PU will be extremely strong and that Horner's Ford PU will not be strong enough to beat Mercedes in 2026.
This means : There's a big chance that the Red Bull Team will fall apart in 2026 (!)
Horner's fault by thinking about his own pockets ...

Horner made 2 big mistakes :
1- Let Honda go (the triple World Champion engine)
2- Developing his own Red Bull PU in collaboration with Ford (Red Bull-Ford Powertrains)

Christian Horner and Ford President and CEO Jim Farley

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

It has very little to do with Horner's (love-soap) affair.
MAX is already thinking about the new PU regulations in 2026.
Regarding the HP output ,they already know : The 2026 Mercedes PU will be extremely strong and that Horner's Ford PU will not be strong enough to beat Mercedes in 2026.
This means : There's a big chance that the Red Bull Team will fall apart in 2026 (!)
Horner's fault by thinking about his own pockets ...

Horner made 2 big mistakes :
1- Let Honda go (the triple World Champion engine)
2- Developing his own Red Bull PU in collaboration with Ford (Red Bull-Ford Powertrains)

Christian Horner and Ford President and CEO Jim Farley

IF Max leaves RB for MB in 2026 does that mean you will transform into a MB fan?

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Horner made 2 big mistakes :
1- Let Honda go (the triple World Champion engine)
2- Developing his own Red Bull PU in collaboration with Ford (Red Bull-Ford Powertrains)

3- Detonating the Porsche deal
4- Failure to engage brain at all times before using Whatsapp with a PA


(source: here)

[Sneaky Pete]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

IF Max leaves RB for MB in 2026 does that mean you will transform into a MB fan?

Can you imagine!
There would be so much back pedaling that if harnessed it could power a small town.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

It has very little to do with Horner's (love-soap) affair.
MAX is already thinking about the new PU regulations in 2026.
Regarding the HP output ,they already know : The 2026 Mercedes PU will be extremely strong and that Horner's Ford PU will not be strong enough to beat Mercedes in 2026.
This means : There's a big chance that the Red Bull Team will fall apart in 2026 (!)
Horner's fault by thinking about his own pockets ...

Horner made 2 big mistakes :
1- Let Honda go (the triple World Champion engine)
2- Developing his own Red Bull PU in collaboration with Ford (Red Bull-Ford Powertrains)

Christian Horner and Ford President and CEO Jim Farley

No wonder, another reason Jos wants CH out.

[M5Rick]

''Undriveable and slower than F2', do we really want this 50/50 nonsense F1 cars.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

IF Max leaves RB for MB in 2026 does that mean you will transform into a MB fan?

My friend I'm getting furious , just thinking about it...

#Blasphemy (!)

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

My friend I'm getting furious , just thinking about it...

#Blasphemy (!)

Ford could be better than what is thought of it now, and Merc? let's remember Silverstone '21.