2020-202x Corvette Stingray

duder13 · 10-04-2019, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WestRace

It's a space frame construction so the fix roof won't do much for structural torsional rigidity. I actually think the car looks better with the roof off.

Yeah, this is one of the few cars where I think the convertible might actually look better than the coupe/targa.

WestRace · 10-04-2019, 01:12 PM

A tale of two cities lols.

supra93 · 10-04-2019, 02:50 PM

Red Bread · 10-04-2019, 02:51 PM

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A tale of two cities lols.

I honestly hate that design. The way the door looks like it's for a much smaller car and then they tacked on the rest above it. The busy swoop lines around the intake that just sort of wander onto the rear fender. There are a few areas I really like, but as a whole, it's not good.

Is the C8 better? No, but it's also not 4x worse.

Red Bread · 10-04-2019, 02:53 PM

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Another dumb holdover. Give me a fixed roof.

It's a space frame construction so the fix roof won't do much for structural torsional rigidity. I actually think the car looks better with the roof off.

I just would prefer to buy a coupe that's a coupe. If I'd wanted a convertible I'd have bought one. Maybe it's growing up in the 80's, but targa roofs are forever tacky. Mustache. Coors Light and half unbuttoned Hawaiian shirt tacky.

WestRace · 10-04-2019, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

I honestly hate that design. The way the door looks like it's for a much smaller car and then they tacked on the rest above it. The busy swoop lines around the intake that just sort of wander onto the rear fender. There are a few areas I really like, but as a whole, it's not good.

Is the C8 better? No, but it's also not 4x worse.

Maybe they should hire you as styling specialist.

WestRace · 10-04-2019, 03:02 PM

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I just would prefer to buy a coupe that's a coupe. If I'd wanted a convertible I'd have bought one. Maybe it's growing up in the 80's, but targa roofs are forever tacky. Mustache. Coors Light and half unbuttoned Hawaiian shirt tacky.

Just keep the roof on and you have a coupe. Or buy a Tributo.

Red Bread · 10-04-2019, 03:22 PM

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I honestly hate that design. The way the door looks like it's for a much smaller car and then they tacked on the rest above it. The busy swoop lines around the intake that just sort of wander onto the rear fender. There are a few areas I really like, but as a whole, it's not good.

Is the C8 better? No, but it's also not 4x worse.

Maybe they should hire you as styling specialist.

Meh, I stopped paying attention the second they forgot putting a third pedal in their cars. Same reason I really don't have any interest in the C8. But I still have opinions about how they look. And at least one shop can turn most Fezzas into manuals.

3798j · 10-04-2019, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

I honestly hate that design. The way the door looks like it's for a much smaller car and then they tacked on the rest above it. The busy swoop lines around the intake that just sort of wander onto the rear fender. There are a few areas I really like, but as a whole, it's not good.

Is the C8 better? No, but it's also not 4x worse.

Must say I'm in agreement here, but the real standout styling mistake for me is the windscreen. It isn't integrated very well to the body and seems way too large.

WestRace · 10-04-2019, 03:34 PM

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but the real standout styling mistake for me is the windscreen. It isn't integrated very well to the body and seems way too large.

That would be true for most if not all convertibles especially with some given camera angles.

WestRace · 10-04-2019, 03:35 PM

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Meh, I stopped paying attention the second they forgot putting a third pedal in their cars. Same reason I really don't have any interest in the C8. But I still have opinions about how they look. And at least one shop can turn most Fezzas into manuals.

OK fair enough. I can pretty much pick apart any car I see.

The HACK · 10-04-2019, 07:04 PM

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LOL. That's generating quite a stir at the closed loop echo chamber known as CorvetteForums. Fat jokes about Matt Farrah appears to be the most prevalent theme, although from what I've seen of most Corvette owners...None of them should REALLY be making any sort of fat jokes, myself included.

WestRace · 10-04-2019, 08:33 PM

The noise from that vid does sound more like a truck than a sport car. Time for a flat plane crank V8 GM :-). Even Mustangs have flat plane DOHC V8. There is no excuse. Maybe GM too lazy to make one.

Something like dis :-)

c1pher · 10-04-2019, 10:35 PM

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^ i listened to his podcast today.

basically says the redline on the vette is super low at 6000 rpm... like alot lower than most other mid engine exotics. and that its still a 'corvette' and smells like a chevy equinox inside and isn't near the fit and finish of the 992 carrera they had in the test.

Clearly you’ve never been in a Corvette. It has its own distinct aroma and supposedly the C8 will smell similarly.

And as much as I love my two Porsches, I would say the Corvette C7 fit and finish is very close, like 95% but benchmarks at least as well as a Carrera S that costs twice as much.

WestRace · 10-04-2019, 11:09 PM

The interior has gotten so much better that anyone is complaining is probably having too much free time. It's the little things in term of driving that may potentially irritate me. For example, the Farrah's vid shows the exhaust is little bit low rent. I mean you're driving a cool looking $75K mid engine sport car and it sounds no better than a Toyota pickup truck. And of course there are other things that you don't know until having driven the car. Those who put down order money today thinking it will drive like a 911 or R8 or Ferrari will be very disappointed. It will still be a Corvette. Fast, cheap, though not as out of control this time :-)

Towerworld · 10-04-2019, 11:29 PM

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The interior has gotten so much better that anyone is complaining is probably having too much free time. It's the little things in term of driving that may potentially irritate me. For example, the Farrah's vid shows the exhaust is little bit low rent. I mean you're driving a cool looking $75K mid engine sport car and it sounds no better than a Toyota pickup truck. And of course there are other things that you don't know until having driven the car. Those who put down order money today thinking it will drive like a 911 or R8 or Ferrari will be very disappointed. It will still be a Corvette. Fast, cheap, though not as out of control this time :-)

sounds better than turbocharged 911’s or other sports cars like an m4, amg gtr so im not sure what the big problem is.

WestRace · 10-04-2019, 11:41 PM

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sounds better than turbocharged 911’s or other sports cars like an m4, amg gtr so im not sure what the big problem is.

I won't try to argue about something that is characterized as "subjective preference". It's hard to imagine the sound in the Farrah's vid is better than this but I am not going to argue about what one think is better or not.

c1pher · 10-04-2019, 11:43 PM

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The interior has gotten so much better that anyone is complaining is probably having too much free time. It's the little things in term of driving that may potentially irritate me. For example, the Farrah's vid shows the exhaust is little bit low rent. I mean you're driving a cool looking $75K mid engine sport car and it sounds no better than a Toyota pickup truck. And of course there are other things that you don't know until having driven the car. Those who put down order money today thinking it will drive like a 911 or R8 or Ferrari will be very disappointed. It will still be a Corvette. Fast, cheap, though not as out of control this time :-)

Again, another person who hasn’t driven or possibly even heard a Corvette before. They sound pretty darn good at idle, when revving it up, driving in low or high rpm, on the downshift. It’s probably one of the better sounding engines out there. Now I will say it doesn’t sound as sexy as a GT350 but the GT350 is a Mustang.

c1pher · 10-04-2019, 11:44 PM

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I won't try to argue about something that is characterized as "subjective preference". It's hard to imagine the sound in the Farrah's vid is better than this but I am not going to argue about what one think is better or not.

That sounds like a tractor to me lol.

WestRace · 10-04-2019, 11:47 PM

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That sounds like a tractor to me lol.

Fair enough. If you think it's better, so be it. It's all in your head anyway.

Obioban · 10-05-2019, 06:21 AM

I don’t think the c8 sounds amazing, but it certainly sounds better than any modern turbo engines I’ve heard... which is most cars, these days.

M5Rick · 10-05-2019, 06:48 AM

The four pipes exiting from the diffuser area on the last model look much better and the heavily sculpted sides will be a problem in built up areas.

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