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12-15-2020, 07:06 PM | #68 |
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Wow, wasn't expecting all these responses. A lot of great answers. I decided I will be going to college and getting my bachelor's degree in Operation Management and Information Systems since nowadays you can't get a "good job" without at least a bachelor's. In terms of getting a master's or MBA, I am hoping once I get my bachelor's degree and find a job, my employer might be willing to pay for the master's degree. If not, I'll see what I'll do. I'll spend 1.5-2 years at either University of Illinois at Chicago or Northern Illinois University (spend around $31k-$40 (max) including tuition, books, and rent/commute). I doubt I'll get promoted at my sales job in 2 years so I rather not risk my college education for the sales job even though I've learned a lot and really do enjoy the job. At the end of the day, I can always start my own dealership (yes, I know it'll require a lot of work and licenses) or work for one with my degree but in a different department other than sales.
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i did the whole college, med school, residency, to clinic job path. hard to say if its worth it. Its a good gig. but money isn't everything. Sucks having a job where you have alot of responsibility and get calls on your day off. Even though i'm there only 40 hours a week I'm jealous of my buddies and gf who get to work from home all week with flexible hours. taking walks or cruises whenever, hitting the bong, playing call of duty.
i guess its just a grass is greener on the other side thing. they think i'm lucky with the cars and income. i think they're lucky with their freedom and being able to work in pajamas.
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I've used the example of a girl I knew in college that was a straight A student studying EE. Could she analyze the crap out of a circuit diagram? Sure. Could she apply that to something so simple as to resetting a circuit breaker? Nope/fail. The other side of the extreme. I have a friend that used to be a ASE Master Tech. Owned a repair shop for a while. The guy was brilliant around diagnosing electrical and computer systems in modern cars. Attended college but dropped out. Dealerships would send their problem child cars to him to fix. Quote:
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12-16-2020, 06:04 AM | #73 | |
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12-16-2020, 06:08 AM | #74 | |
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If you want to get something to hang on the wall to get further in IT, do a certification. For security, get a CISSP. For networking, get a CCIE. |
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12-16-2020, 06:38 AM | #75 | |
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Certifications and work experience are way more important in IT. I have a bachelor's in another field, but if I had known I would end up in IT it would've been better for me to do an internship while getting network training/certifications. One of my friends who works for my company is 3 years younger than me. He did a 1.5 year IT networking certification program right out of college. Zero debt, started out making $70k his first day with the company. While degrees shouldn't be dismissed, work experience (internships) and training are huge. Companies want people they can hire and stick out in the field to get shit done, not someone who doesn't know what to do and needs their hand held. |
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I've got similar issues with colleagues at work. Four year degrees in CompSci or IT, and can't troubleshoot a simple problem that doesn't involve rebooting. Did you check the logs? Do you understand what the logs are telling you? One of them in particular can kick the proverbial can down the road for weeks, calling tech support because he plugged a cable into the wrong port and never verified the basics. Speaking of which, I need to go yell at a vendor now for majorly exceeding SLA over a failed SAN controller unit that has been kicked down the road for three weeks now with 120 TB of much-needed disk offline.....
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i attended CUNY college for Electronic Engineering, graduated with A.A.S degree
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If you're a staff programmer at an old-fashioned company then a Master's will move you up onto a higher pay scale. They'll probably reimburse you for your tuition along the way. But you'll still be making less than a contractor. A staff software engineer with a Master's degree at a Fortune 500 company probably makes $250K on the coasts and $140-150 here in the Midwest. My top contractors make $250K+ here in the Midwest, where the cost of living is much lower than on either coast yet we have more than a dozen Fortune 500 companies headquartered here and lots more that have extensive technical staff here.
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I have no regrets going to college. Most of my tuition was paid by the G.I. Bill.
There's no guarantee of any kind that you will ever get a job after you graduate. You will likely make less money than a person from a trade school. You might be exposed to courses in ethics, the arts or critical thinking which may or may not translate to anything useful. You may use what you have learned to cheat, steal and lie. You might have majored in philosophy and wondered what the hell you're doing with your life. College is not for everyone nor should it be. If you want to be a billionaire entrepreneur, go to college and then quit as soon as possible. However, if you're an average middle class schmuck and don't mind making a decent wage without doing a lot of manual work, college is a way to go. |
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Jobs are for suckers. Start investing and start a business. There's no shortage of ideas.
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12-16-2020, 05:51 PM | #84 |
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I've been investing in stocks since I was 18. I'll probably start investing in real estate after college is over and maybe open up a business
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You're on your way. I was lucky enough to start right after the 2008/09 crash.
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Perhaps I'm looking at this a bit different than most of the posters here that are giving their opinion based on their experiences. My response is going to be a logical assertion.
If the career you want to pursue requires a degree to either be interviewed or hired then you need a degree. If you are able to get on the job experience in the career path you want without a degree then one is not required. Your foresight should be broad enough to also evaluate the positions in your career path. If the base line job does not require a degree but promotions within the career path do then you will eventually need to work towards a degree. |
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