Still want an EV? (NO POLITICS)

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M2siast

I don't understand... What does the above have to do with the notice you posted on the public lot?

Our government keep pushing EV, but what happening to the charging stations. I don't know the rest of Canada. In Vancouver, it is not good. More than 50% of the charging stations (except the Tesla charging stations) are always out of order. I have a few EV friends, so I don't need a fact check. And now the city owned parking lots are not allowing EV users to charge their cars in their parking lots. What is it if it is not a joke.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Those plugs are not for charging vehicles… the parking fee doesn’t factor in anyone plugging their car to charge at a parking spot.

It’s not a joke.
I don’t follow how charging stations are going because I don’t have an EV, but you’re confusing things…

It’s a GOOD thing public outlets do not allow people to charge their cars on them.

Be it in my building, on the street, or on a parking lot, I don’t want to pay for other people to “fuel” their cars. They can pay it themselves.

If you want an EV, buy it and pay for your own electricity. Don’t push it on the rest of us who don’t have EVs or pay for our own fuel (either at a gas station, at a recharge station, or at home).

That mindset I think is funny, not the sign.

I totally agree about not allowing people to charge their EV in public outlets. However those are city owned parking lots and belong to the city. If the city/government are not getting their shit together to build more charging stations or fixing all the out of order charging stations. What is the point of pushing EV when most of the EV users are having trouble charging their cars in public. This is what I mean one step forward and 10 steps backward.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Cities don’t push EVs. Federal/Provincial governments do.

One issue is separate from another.
Keep EVs out of my plugs, I don’t want to pay for people’s fuel.

That’s the bottom line. It’s correct as is.

This is not what I read/heard from my city

[eugenebmw]

And this "By late 2021, a DC Fast Charging hub will be located within a 10-minute drive of most parts of Vancouver." is completed BS. May be in 2050

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Cities don’t push EVs. Federal/Provincial governments do.

One issue is separate from another.
Keep EVs out of my plugs, I don’t want to pay for people’s fuel.

That’s the bottom line. It’s correct as is.

You can keep dream on. Our tax money have already paid for the EV owners one way or the other. Do you have a choice??

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Or you could just drive a well maintained ICE vehicle and don't hit anything with it. You know, like the the majority of us.

But, but, but... ICEV spontaneously catch on fire just like EV do?

[EddyBMW]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

But, but, but... ICEV spontaneously catch on fire just like EV do?

Risk is low

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by EddyBMW

Risk is low

[Car-Addicted]

Homemade electrical cars burned in north Phoenix garage fire
June 18, 2024
PHOENIX - Homemade electric vehicles caught fire in Phoenix during the morning hours of June 18, damaging a family home near Cactus and Cave Creek roads.
When crews arrived at the scene and realized it was two homemade EVs on fire, they brought out a winch and yanked them out as fast as possible.
"If you do have an electric vehicle, and it catches fire, please relay that to the 911 dispatch center, and they can get that to us, and we can start getting our hazmat units, so we can wrap our heads around how we're going to attack this fire," said Keller.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/homemade-...163510853.html

Homemade electric vehicles, what could possibly go wrong?

[gblansten]

When you guys are down to posting about homemade EVs being a problem then I think that is robustly positive sign that the real EV industry is in good shape.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by gblansten

When you guys are down to posting about homemade EVs being a problem then I think that is robustly positive sign that the real EV industry is in good shape.

Not really but thanks for the segue.

EV startup Fisker's U.S. units file for bankruptcy
June 19, 2024
Electric vehicle startup Fisker, which sought Chapter 11 protection earlier this week, said its U.S. units had also filed for bankruptcy in a court in Delaware on Wednesday.
Fisker Inc and its other U.S. subsidiaries have entered into Chapter 11, the firm said, adding that discussions about the sale of assets remain ongoing.
As per the court filing, Fisker Inc listed assets estimated to be worth between $500 million and $1 billion, while its liabilities were projected at between $1 billion and $10 billion.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...cy-2024-06-19/

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Not really but thanks for the segue.

EV startup Fisker's U.S. units file for bankruptcy
June 19, 2024
Electric vehicle startup Fisker, which sought Chapter 11 protection earlier this week, said its U.S. units had also filed for bankruptcy in a court in Delaware on Wednesday.
Fisker Inc and its other U.S. subsidiaries have entered into Chapter 11, the firm said, adding that discussions about the sale of assets remain ongoing.
As per the court filing, Fisker Inc listed assets estimated to be worth between $500 million and $1 billion, while its liabilities were projected at between $1 billion and $10 billion.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...cy-2024-06-19/

I don't think Fisker going bankrupt is a surprise or even remotely unexpected. They were doomed from the start to be an asterisk on the EV story.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Not really but thanks for the segue.

EV startup Fisker's U.S. units file for bankruptcy
June 19, 2024
Electric vehicle startup Fisker, which sought Chapter 11 protection earlier this week, said its U.S. units had also filed for bankruptcy in a court in Delaware on Wednesday.
Fisker Inc and its other U.S. subsidiaries have entered into Chapter 11, the firm said, adding that discussions about the sale of assets remain ongoing.
As per the court filing, Fisker Inc listed assets estimated to be worth between $500 million and $1 billion, while its liabilities were projected at between $1 billion and $10 billion.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...cy-2024-06-19/

Segways are electric, right?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I don't think Fisker going bankrupt is a surprise or even remotely unexpected. They were doomed from the start to be an asterisk on the EV story.

Isn't Fisker the company where all the executives were pulling in gobs of cash for salaries?

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Not really but thanks for the segue.

EV startup Fisker's U.S. units file for bankruptcy
June 19, 2024
Electric vehicle startup Fisker, which sought Chapter 11 protection earlier this week, said its U.S. units had also filed for bankruptcy in a court in Delaware on Wednesday.
Fisker Inc and its other U.S. subsidiaries have entered into Chapter 11, the firm said, adding that discussions about the sale of assets remain ongoing.
As per the court filing, Fisker Inc listed assets estimated to be worth between $500 million and $1 billion, while its liabilities were projected at between $1 billion and $10 billion.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...cy-2024-06-19/

I read before some of those Fiskers were going for huge discounts but what is the point if they are going bankrupt.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I read before some of those Fiskers were going for huge discounts but what is the point if they are going bankrupt.

Does anyone on here think that the Fisker bankruptcy has real impact on the EV industry. If so, that is fine, but why?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Homemade electrical cars burned in north Phoenix garage fire
June 18, 2024
PHOENIX - Homemade electric vehicles caught fire in Phoenix during the morning hours of June 18, damaging a family home near Cactus and Cave Creek roads.
When crews arrived at the scene and realized it was two homemade EVs on fire, they brought out a winch and yanked them out as fast as possible.
"If you do have an electric vehicle, and it catches fire, please relay that to the 911 dispatch center, and they can get that to us, and we can start getting our hazmat units, so we can wrap our heads around how we're going to attack this fire," said Keller.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/homemade-...163510853.html

Homemade electric vehicles, what could possibly go wrong?

I built my own ICE-powered pressure washer. Should I be worried?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Does anyone on here think that the Fisker bankruptcy has real impact on the EV industry. If so, that is fine, but why?

Agree. And it's Round 2 for Fisker, IIRC.

[M5Rick]

I could be mistaken but I may have read that some bone head was offering to replace older P-car 911 flat 6 gas engines with an EV power unit, well fek me if it's true

[Car-Addicted]

I forgot when did Theodore Roosevelt cut Henry Ford a big check?
"On June 16, 1903, Henry and 12 others invested $28,000 and created Ford Motor Company."

How Fisker got $500 million in government loans for a fuel economy flop
When Fisker Automotive won heaps of praise from Vice President Joe Bozo and a $529 million loan from the U.S. government, officials touted the Karma luxury sedan as getting up to 100 miles a gallon, going 50 miles on a full battery charge and offering "supercar" performance. None of those targets were met — but Fisker's moving ahead, your tax dollars in hand.
https://jalopnik.com/how-fisker-got-...or-a-f-5851735

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I forgot when did Theodore Roosevelt cut Henry Ford a big check?
"On June 16, 1903, Henry and 12 others invested $28,000 and created Ford Motor Company."

How Fisker got $500 million in government loans for a fuel economy flop
When Fisker Automotive won heaps of praise from Vice President Joe Bozo and a $529 million loan from the U.S. government, officials touted the Karma luxury sedan as getting up to 100 miles a gallon, going 50 miles on a full battery charge and offering "supercar" performance. None of those targets were met — but Fisker's moving ahead, your tax dollars in hand.
https://jalopnik.com/how-fisker-got-...or-a-f-5851735

Lucid will also likely go bankrupt. When the Saudis get tired of losing money they are toast.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Isn't Fisker the company where all the executives were pulling in gobs of cash for salaries?

You can't have a green grift with out taking the cash and running!

Henrik Fisker President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board $783,255
Geeta Gupta-Fisker Chief Financial Officer, Chief Operating Officer and Former President $778,585
Burkhard J. Huhnke Chief Technology Officer $997,707
John C. Finnucan IV Chief Accounting Officer $436,661
Board of Directors in FISKER INC
Mark E. Hickson $247,028
Mitchell S. Zuklie $242,028
Nadine I. Watt $250,028
Roderick K. Randall $239,528
Wendy J. Greuel $257,028
William R. McDermott $267,028

https://www1.salary.com/FISKER-INC-D...-Salaries.html