Still want an EV? (NO POLITICS)

[Dan B]

Originally Posted by murderspice

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

Yeah, were done.

[Dan B]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Actually no. The foundations have not changed.

Stop being intentionally obtuse.

Originally Posted by Weather Man

The paid for crap coming out of universities today is so bad the very same professors doing it are complaining about it. Who do you think is funding the "new" dust pollution papers?

Prove it. You made a statement, support it with facts.

[x622]

Originally Posted by Dan B

Stop being intentionally obtuse.



Prove it. You made a statement, support it with facts.

Not the guy you're responding to but... Federal lobbying;

https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-...summary?id=E12

[M5Rick]

^ From the press release ''$45 billion spent on just lobbying since 2015' Now the people know.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Equilibrandt

The astounding dichotomy of this situation is that y'all are apparently saying this applies to everyone but automakers and oil companies. One might argue they're one of the worst proponents.

Resources are scarce and only getting more scarce. Most of the current oil execs won't be alive to see that, so instead they attack anything that would harm their current dollar, and the ICE-hugging masses eat it up. Just as any EV-fanatic touts EVs as being the savior of the planet, which I also disagree with. Ouroboros, everyone's eating their own tail.

I've also just come to realize that rage-baiting in a subforum like this is an excellent way to artificially inflate your subforum Rep score. Echo chamber gon' echo.

There is no whitewashing on this thread

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by murderspice

“...If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

This is exactly the response I get when I ask Climate Fearers who believe man can manipulate the climate. When I ask them the date or era in climate history they want to roll the climate back to, they fall silent in answer and say the time for arguing about climate models has past, because it is "settled science". This has happened in this very thread.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Dan B

Stop being intentionally obtuse.

The same group of people who insist I must believe the climate science (models) are the same people who argue a person can decide what gender they are. Please, me obtuse? Lol.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Cybertruck Turns Into Large Metal Brick After Going Through Car Wash
"Damage caused by car washes is not covered by the warranty."

https://twitter.com/StonkKing4/statu...brick-car-wash

I guess you have to put it in wade mode to go through the car wash?

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Cybertruck Turns Into Large Metal Brick After Going Through Car Wash
"Damage caused by car washes is not covered by the warranty."

https://twitter.com/StonkKing4/statu...brick-car-wash

Holy li-po batteries, a Cybertruck knocked out cold by a car wash.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Dan B

Where do I say their stance is rational?

And it is foolish and short sided to believe we have and endless supply of oil. At some point we will need alternatives. We will also be forced to start prioritizing how oil is used. I am not saying this will happen soon, but why not responsibly start developing alternative technologies?

I have to say I am under the consideration of the Abiotic oil theory makes some scientific sense. I also believe the geologists who predict the Earth's oil reserves are somewhere north of 10,000 years before a predicted depletion situation is on the horizon.

None of my statements or positions throughout this thread are in retrograde of not developing alternative solutions. I have many times suggested the best solution, in my opinion, is advancement of the series-hybrid architecture using a specifically developed ICE to supply on-board generation of electricity. The architecture would use a small EV battery that supplies high-demand power when required and absorbs regeneration energy.

The ICE used can significantly improve on the efficiency of the combustion process by using higher thermal resistant materials, which reduce heat loss. The engine is not connected to the driven wheels in any sort of mechanical path so its design does not need to deal with the mechanical shock loads of an automotive drivetrain. Being the electrical transmission cables are very short because the electricity is generated on board, there is no electrical transmission loss (i.e. like there is in the national electrical grid). The ICE can run on any various combustible fuels and not regulated to hydrocarbon fuels. Best of all, most all of this technology exists or is easier to achieve desired developmental states than a lightweight energy-dense battery. More importantly, the series hybrid uses the current fuel distribution system for gasoline and diesel and doesn't cause grid stress until such time the electrical grid can be upsized to meet electrical demands of AI and data storage let alone mass EV adoption. Mass adoption of a series-hybrid architecture also does not disrupt the petrochemical industry, which plays a significant role in support of modern lifestyles enjoyed by billions of people living in the modern world. And best of all, cars are refueled in under 5 minutes and have no range loss dependent upon ambient temperature or other adverse weather conditions.

The key to progression of such a vehicle is convincing the un-scientific masses (or at least those who read the internet) that the internal combustion engine is going to kill the planet.

Apologies to the participants of this thread for my repetitive posts on the subject of the series hybrid.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

I bet the Tesla owners won't be happy. Now all other EV owners are fighting with Tesla owners for the Tesla quick charging stations. This is going to be interesting.

Yes, interesting, especially because the Mach E needs to use the parking space to the right of the Tesla Charger, so charging a Mach E takes up 2 chargers. If I'm Model 3 and I'd have to wait 40 minutes for a Mach E to charge up blocking the only available charger, hummm, I'd be WTF.

[Dan B]

Originally Posted by x622

Not the guy you're responding to but... Federal lobbying;

https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-...summary?id=E12

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

The same group of people who insist I must believe the climate science (models) are the same people who argue a person can decide what gender they are. Please, me obtuse? Lol.

You are still being intentionally obtuse.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Dan B

You are still being intentionally obtuse.

Nah, just naturally acute. You just can't see it.

[murderspice]

Originally Posted by Dan B

If they were written prior to 1983 they are very out of date. I would suggest finding peer reviewed scientific journals written with today's understanding of science. Our understanding of the universe and technology has changed quite a bit in the last 41 years.

This was prophetic lol

[murderspice]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Do tell how any oil or automaker would get favorable research through what constitutes higher

The same way the cigarette companies did. Reality has a liberal bias.

[murderspice]

Im surprised this didn’t get more play here.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/19/12458...celerator-soap

Edit: i love this - “This is the second soap-related manufacturing process to make headlines this month. A Boeing supplier recently defended the use of Dawn dish soap as lubricant in assembling door seals in manufacturing jets like the one that lost a door mid-flight.”

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by murderspice

Im surprised this didn’t get more play here.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/19/12458...celerator-soap

Just saw the video of the 35 second repair. Really cool.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Yes, interesting, especially because the Mach E needs to use the parking space to the right of the Tesla Charger, so charging a Mach E takes up 2 chargers. If I'm Model 3 and I'd have to wait 40 minutes for a Mach E to charge up blocking the only available charger, hummm, I'd be WTF.

Soon they will pull out guns at the charging station just for getting a spot for charging. It is what it is. Good luck to them. Less people going to the gas stations. Plus 2 for me and all the ICE car owners.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Soon they will pull out guns at the charging station just for getting a spot for charging. It is what it is. Good luck to them. Less people going to the gas stations. Plus 2 for me and all the ICE car owners.

You worry about some really odd sh1i.

[M5Rick]

Grass huh, be cutting it with our new gas powered mower

[Condorll]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Just saw the video of the 35 second repair. Really cool.

Further down on your link:

"Workers at the Volkswagen plant in Chattanooga, Tenn., have voted overwhelmingly to join the United Auto Workers, setting a new trajectory for labor unions in the American South"

Hope the workers enjoy the UAW deduction on their paychecks so the local UAW leaders can ride around in new Cadillacs and enjoy their 3 Martini lunches.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by gblansten

You worry about some really odd sh1i.

I am not worrying because I don't think I will be an EV owner anything soon. It has nothing to do with me