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      12-17-2022, 05:42 PM   #7261
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So how much time would I get for assault on an officer?

Called CHP to report a vehicle left for a week. Nice officer comes and parks just behind as person responsible (but probably not RO) arrives
When officer comes to speak to me, he asks if there are other vehicles he needs to take care of. I point down the street and start describing two others when I notice him put his hand on his sidearm. Then he instructs me to please put the rose clippers on the ground



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Well…..we know if CNN is reporting it, they can no longer hide or deny what many of us already expected/suspected.
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Well…..we know if CNN is reporting it, they can no longer hide or deny what many of us already expected/suspected.
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What is the speed limit in Canada and USA

110kph in Canada and everyone going over 80mph
70mph in USA and everyone going over 80mph

Yes currently touring the North East...
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At least in US the fine police (especially the LA force) service give a chance for armed crims to surrender.
Over here a car that came up on a spy cam to have been used carrying a gun was cornered and the unarmed driver shot dead in the car through the head by an armed cop apparently without being given a chance to surrender, this is near the hotspot of Brixton,South London where there have already been two riots in the past through police brutality and the 'investigation' into why he was shot is ongoing.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa...amily-say.html

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      12-23-2022, 08:47 AM   #7266
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What is the speed limit in Canada and USA

110kph in Canada and everyone going over 80mph
70mph in USA and everyone going over 80mph

Yes currently touring the North East...
Generally the speed limit in Canada is 100KHM, but in some places 110KMH. I won't tell you that you'll never get a ticket but usually 120kmh is a safe speed to avoid the dreaded coupon.
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      12-23-2022, 08:57 PM   #7267
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What is the speed limit in Canada and USA

110kph in Canada and everyone going over 80mph
70mph in USA and everyone going over 80mph

Yes currently touring the North East...
Depends. On freeways it's anywhere from 55mph to 85mph, depending on the state and area.
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Another sad day for Law Enforcement in Canada. a rookie police officer who just came off probation and was on his first solo shift was shot to death by a POS who was out on bail for assault police and possession of an illegal handgun. Here is a video of the officers remains arriving at the Office of the Chief Coroner with escort. RIP Brother.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2615...90374291040324
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      12-28-2022, 10:35 PM   #7269
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Another sad day for Law Enforcement in Canada. a rookie police officer who just came off probation and was on his first solo shift was shot to death by a POS who was out on bail for assault police and possession of an illegal handgun. Here is a video of the officers remains arriving at the Office of the Chief Coroner with escort. RIP Brother.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2615...90374291040324
R.I.P. Canadian brother-in-blue. Such a tragic loss amplified by minimal time in the profession. So sad!
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      12-28-2022, 11:05 PM   #7270
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From another site (calguns.org). I thought the LEO braintrust may be able to help this guy. If it matters, it is The People's Republik of Kommiefornyastan.
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      12-29-2022, 07:23 AM   #7271
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Another sad day for Law Enforcement in Canada. a rookie police officer who just came off probation and was on his first solo shift was shot to death by a POS who was out on bail for assault police and possession of an illegal handgun. Here is a video of the officers remains arriving at the Office of the Chief Coroner with escort. RIP Brother.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2615...90374291040324
RIP. Very sad. When will things like assault and using a weapon actually be more important than legally owning one? That scum bag should have already been in jail.
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Have you/someone else ever allowed/been tempted to let a person have the last punch? For example, responding to a domestic where a wife caught her husband cheating… and she was throwing shoes at him/taking a pair of scissors to his Armani suit…
I recall a very long time ago we were walking a guy out of the house in handcuffs, he was under arrest for beating his wife pretty bad and as we were leaving she sucker punched him a good one.....I don't think that part ever got written up, but my memory might not be too clear on the details, like I said it was a long time ago.

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      12-29-2022, 11:52 AM   #7273
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Another sad day for Law Enforcement in Canada. a rookie police officer who just came off probation and was on his first solo shift was shot to death by a POS who was out on bail for assault police and possession of an illegal handgun. Here is a video of the officers remains arriving at the Office of the Chief Coroner with escort. RIP Brother.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2615...90374291040324
RIP. Very sad. When will things like assault and using a weapon actually be more important than legally owning one? That scum bag should have already been in jail.
We should not conflate legal ownership with criminals and the associated behavior(s). This has nothing to do with legal ownership and everything to do with pro-criminal legislation, policies, etc.



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Have you/someone else ever allowed/been tempted to let a person have the last punch? For example, responding to a domestic where a wife caught her husband cheating… and she was throwing shoes at him/taking a pair of scissors to his Armani suit…
I'll just say this….


….what might've been given a pass many years ago has to be addressed today because of body worn cameras. Everything is hyper scrutinized.
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We should not conflate legal ownership with criminals and the associated behavior(s). This has nothing to do with legal ownership and everything to do with pro-criminal legislation, policies, etc.





I'll just say this….


….what might've been given a pass many years ago has to be addressed today because of body worn cameras. Everything is hyper scrutinized.
The stories my dad has from the 70s while working for the DEA in Detroit….
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The stories my dad has from the 70s while working for the DEA in Detroit….
The times have changed.
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From another site (calguns.org). I thought the LEO braintrust may be able to help this guy. If it matters, it is The People's Republik of Kommiefornyastan.
I forgot to post the question (https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1835961)

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I would like to hear people's thoughts on carrying inside a police station in this particular scenario. I'm asking here first before going to my IA or the chief of the PD in question and asking their thoughts or policy. I don't want to rock the boat and force a new policy to be made where one didn't exist before.

Background: I have access to the inside of local police station (in the Bay Area) where I have regular monthly meetings with an emergency services group I'm a board member of. We, the board, have credentialed access to the secured parking area and inside the station. Meetings are always at night time and the PD is mostly empty when we are there. We never interact with any police officers as we go to and from our meeting room. We go in as a group and leave as a group.

What do people think about carrying in that scenario? I understand concealed means concealed, but I'd suspect if we interacted with any police their senses might be tuned well to see telltale signs of carrying.

Our IA did not list police station as restricted areas. Only schools, courthouses, commercial airports, bars and federal buildings. I don't see any law, yet, on restrictions at a police station.
Carry as usual without notifying IA/Chief?
Ask the IA their thoughts on doing this?
Ask the PD Chief if he is ok with it?

The other part of this equation is that even though I can do it, doesn't mean I should do it. It may be legal to carry, but it may not be smart to do it due risks of encountering an officer and things not going well. Besides not carrying at all, leaving in the car while inside seems to be the best option from my view without letting IA/Chief knowing that a CCWer has inside access and then having them set an official policy due to this.

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From another site (calguns.org). I thought the LEO braintrust may be able to help this guy. If it matters, it is The People's Republik of Kommiefornyastan.
I forgot to post the question (https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1835961)

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I would like to hear people's thoughts on carrying inside a police station in this particular scenario. I'm asking here first before going to my IA or the chief of the PD in question and asking their thoughts or policy. I don't want to rock the boat and force a new policy to be made where one didn't exist before.

Background: I have access to the inside of local police station (in the Bay Area) where I have regular monthly meetings with an emergency services group I'm a board member of. We, the board, have credentialed access to the secured parking area and inside the station. Meetings are always at night time and the PD is mostly empty when we are there. We never interact with any police officers as we go to and from our meeting room. We go in as a group and leave as a group.

What do people think about carrying in that scenario? I understand concealed means concealed, but I'd suspect if we interacted with any police their senses might be tuned well to see telltale signs of carrying.

Our IA did not list police station as restricted areas. Only schools, courthouses, commercial airports, bars and federal buildings. I don't see any law, yet, on restrictions at a police station.
Carry as usual without notifying IA/Chief?
Ask the IA their thoughts on doing this?
Ask the PD Chief if he is ok with it?

The other part of this equation is that even though I can do it, doesn't mean I should do it. It may be legal to carry, but it may not be smart to do it due risks of encountering an officer and things not going well. Besides not carrying at all, leaving in the car while inside seems to be the best option from my view without letting IA/Chief knowing that a CCWer has inside access and then having them set an official policy due to this.

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You can. People with CCW's come into the station and it's no issue.
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Sigh! Another one lost during a traffic stop.
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To add to this, the legal system should've prevented this tragedy (...if it were operating as intended). The suspect had an extensive criminal history that included previously killing a California Highway Patrol K-9, assault and weapons charges, etc. He was supposed to be serving life in prison, but a San Bernardino County judge reduced his bail TWICE. That judge should be ashamed of themselves.

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To add to this, the legal system should've prevented this tragedy (...if it were operating as intended). The suspect had an extensive criminal history that included previously killing a California Highway Patrol K-9, assault and weapons charges, etc. He was supposed to be serving life in prison, but a San Bernardino County judge reduced his bail TWICE. That judge should be ashamed of themselves.
The guy who killed the rookie OPP officer a few days ago had two lifetime bans on owning or possessing firearms, and was arrested last year for assault police and possession of a firearm, he did some time in lock up before getting bail and then failed to appear for a court date when he ambushed and killed the officer on his first day on solo patrol.

This nonsense of releasing people on bail who are facing serious violent charges has to stop on both sides of the border. Governments and the courts job is supposed to be to protect society, not feed them to the wolves.
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Funniest comment you've heard in court?

For example,

Judge: "I thought I said that I never wanted to see you in here again."

Criminal: "That's what I kept telling the arresting officer, but he wouldn't listen."
I had traffic court a few months ago where the defendant started berating the judge and was on the verge of issuing a threat. Yeah, that didn't work out too well for him. I just shook my head.
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Are there plans to go electric in future?
Imagining a pursuit vehicle that can catch perps etc.
With Tesla Plad reaching 60 in 2 seconds... I was reading about how many officers are not trained to drive with high acceleration such as Tesla level. Neither is the public for that matter. More and more civilians are trying to adapt to faster drivers. Whether they are crossing the street or driving a car. Speed is the number one killer on the roads. I wonder if there will be a decrease in speeding tickets if vehicles are not upgraded and not able to keep up. On the flip side it could have huge benefits if police went electric first. Hope that makes sense.
More and more EV vehicles are becoming available and within reach of unskilled and careless drivers. I have a blind friend and he really struggles with ‘silent killers’ aka EV.
I know a few departments in California have a couple of EV's in the fleet but I don't see them being used as regular patrol vehicles anytime soon. Police patrol vehicles have high demands on the heat & AC along with all the ancillary electrical equipment, plus lots of hard acceleration I suspect the battery life would be challenged lasting a 12 hour shift and then the time to recharge the fleet during shift change would create a number of challenges. I could be way off though, but this is what my experience and common sense would tell me for the near future anyway.
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