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11-22-2022, 09:44 AM | #7129 |
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We don't have to take the car. Maybe there were licensed drivers in the vehicle. Maybe the D.A. in your area isn't filing on 12500(a) CVC/1460X.X CVC violations, so it's merely a show like it is in L.A. County.
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I have never worked for LAPD, so I can't really comment on the culture of that department. As a black male working in law enforcement, I have never experienced any anti-black sentiment, so I can't really relate to his position (…and I work in L.A. County). I think A LOT of people tend to attribute every problem they have to the color of their skin, especially in the black community. I am not that guy. In fact, it is my anecdotal opinion/experience that very, very few instances have anything to do with race/ethnicity at all (..in the grand scheme of things). P.S. Everybody is a rookie at some point and every rookie makes mistakes. It's par for the course. Last edited by Sedan_Clan; 11-22-2022 at 10:03 AM.. |
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11-22-2022, 06:40 PM | #7133 | |
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Which is why I never considered a job in law enforcement or being a bouncer. |
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11-22-2022, 06:46 PM | #7134 | ||
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11-23-2022, 02:15 AM | #7135 |
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Years ago, a man in L.B. caught someone breaking into his home. Chased him out the back, down an alley, shot him in the back. Why no charges filed ? Even if the guy was armed, he was running away so home owner can not say he was in fear for his life.
Same goes for liquor store robberies. Seen plenty of surveillance videos of them being robbed and suspects getting shot in the back as they are fleeing. How is this OK ? Same for armored vehicle robberies. At what point is it OK for a person (civilian, security, LEO) to shoot somebody in the back ??? Let me add, as they are running away, not like active shooter in school type situation. |
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11-23-2022, 02:31 AM | #7136 | |
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11-23-2022, 03:43 AM | #7137 | |
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If the robber was already off the property, being chased by home owner, then gets shot in the back in the alley. What possible reason could there have been to not file charges ? Even if the robber turned to engage the owner, then turned around again as shots were being fired, wouldn't it still fall on the homeowner for chasing him down ? My point is, owner was not in fear for his life if he was chasing the guy. I thought that was a main focus point under these circumstances. You must be in fear for your life or the life of a loved one or innocent bystander which you are trying to protect. |
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11-23-2022, 08:43 AM | #7139 | |
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If you have legitimate fear for your life or the life of another individual you can use lethal force. it can't be because someone called you and threatened you and you go to their house to kill them first. You can not shoot them in the back as they are 100 feet away running away with the family jewels. You can not shoot them if they stopped being a threat. Perhaps the incident you mention is one where charges should have been filed. But why not provide a link to the incident so ALL the facts can come to light not just those that might be mentioned in light of one sided bias. Stuff like this is why I hate our media. The Rodney King riots were sparked because of inflammatory media. The entire tape shows a man on drugs resisting arrest following a car chase. He was clearly on drugs and a very strong man tossing deputies around like rag dolls. They are human and yeah they might have been scared and took a few extra shots. The frenzied beating at one point was clearly not very professional. But the media portrayed it as if a peaceful motorist was pulled over, dragged out of his car and then beaten unconscious for no reason other than his race. Voila. Instant riots and people DIED because of that misrepresentation. Anyway, in my state you need to have a reasonable fear for yourself or another to use lethal force. I suspect that is a normal standard. |
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That is why I asked what possible circumstances could have created this outcome. The NEWS is garbage and more harmful than good IMO. Its more to "stir the pot" for views than true journalism with facts. Seems like nobody has integrity anymore. Stuff that should be news, gets swept under the rug and not get talked about. |
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11-23-2022, 11:56 AM | #7142 | |
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It's just that real news doesn't sell. People (and I mean this in the most general terms) want drama. It's a perpetual cycle of who can get the most views to generate the most revenue. It's nearly equivalent to social media and influencers. |
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11-23-2022, 04:08 PM | #7146 |
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Idk if this has been asked b4, but how effective do u find traffic attorneys like ticket clinic? From my experience they keep extending as the idea is issuing cop will forget about it. But do they really forget? Haha
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I don't think they are particularly effective IF you actually go to court. I have never once lost in traffic court. If all they are doing is extending, you can do that yourself. Lol! When I'm monitoring traffic, I place my body worn camera on my dash to record the violation. Good luck getting out of it.
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With that said…..
….A LOT of Officers/Deputies do not show up for traffic court, so you have a 50/50 shot of getting it dismissed. Work the system! For my station, we'll get written up for failing to go to court, so we go. It's an easy 3 hours minimum of overtime for usually 20 minutes of work. I'll take it!! Work smarter, not harder. |
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11-23-2022, 04:56 PM | #7149 | |
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Don't think I've ever gotten out of a speeding ticket with highway patrol involved (in court). But they've reduced it to a non moving violation on the spot twice. I like to think my checklist after being pulled over helps a little- rolling down all windows, hands on steering wheel, and having all paperwork ready. |
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