ATLANTA = Frozen Apocalyptic Wasteland?

[Litos]

just stay home......

[Templar]

Originally Posted by Litos

just stay home......

Not allowed to today. Besides, I'm not an idiot and I know how to drive in it.

[upstatedoc]

Originally Posted by Litos

just stay home......

but essential personnel gots to get to work...

[MidwestGolfBum]

Originally Posted by Templar

Not allowed to today. Besides, I'm not an idiot and I know how to drive in it.

It isn't you, it's the people that are around you that DON'T know how that are a bigger risk.

[Templar]

Originally Posted by MidwestGolfBum

It isn't you, it's the people that are around you that DON'T know how that are a bigger risk.

Very true, which is why I keep my distance

Eyes and ears open, constantly looking around (should be doing that anyway).

[MidwestGolfBum]

Originally Posted by Templar

Very true, which is why I keep my distance

Good, stay safe out there.

[Billup]

Pffffttt..., keeping it safe? Lets all be big boys here and go WOT.

[MidwestGolfBum]

I like your style better @Billup but we are talking about people that only see snow here once a decade. They most likely already are.

[Maestro]

I like how everyone is blaming the government and weather forecasters, what happen to taking responsibility for yourself and what you do.

With that said, the issue is most cars in the south either do not have all season radials or winter tires, why would you since how often do you get this kind of weather, or they running around with bald tires. Even in the North like Philly we have idiots who make a mess of the road since they refuse to keep good tires on their car. It only takes a few to cause major problems. We have had cars stranded on road for hours at a time due to the face that road crews can not clean the road because idiots made a mess of the road and cause traffic jams.

Next most people in the south have no clue how to drive in bad weather, again I see in up north, as soon as it rains hard or start to snow, people forget how to drive.

For those who said the road turned to a sheet of ice, I believe this and I have seen this and driven on it, it can be done with good tires. What happen is since all the cars are sitting there running their engines it melts the snow under their car and as soon as they move the cool air hits it and it freezes then the idiot behind you hit you since they have no clue it now frozen.

One time I watch cars just slip off the side of the road because the melting and freezing and I just waited as they all slip off the road and let it snow a bit more and then drove off without a problem once all the cars slid off the road.

[Litos]

Originally Posted by Maestro

what happen to taking responsibility for yourself and what you do.

like I said, just stay home...

if you work at a place that gives 4 shits less about your safety and makes you get to work in conditions like these, you may want to find a better job....

[Templar]

Originally Posted by Maestro

I like how everyone is blaming the government and weather forecasters, what happen to taking responsibility for yourself and what you do.

I'm not blaming them. It's just a fact, they won't waste their budget on snow removal, and I don't blame them. Salt trucks don't do shit when a hard freeze and ice mixed with snow in accumulating amounts comes in. I watched them use that salt/brine mixture on the highway near my house and it didn't do a damn thing. But, it makes sense for them not to spend money on more equipment when they don't need it but once every decade. Some of us don't have the luxury of just "calling in sick" whenever we feel like it, so even if I said I wasn't sure about the roads, chances are my boss would tell me to come in anyway. At no point was I not sure though, and personally I am prepared enough to drive in snow/ice from past experience.

I'm totally with most of you on the idiot drivers though. I witnessed some dumbass in a little Ford Focus this morning try his best to get up the hill leaving my neighborhood. He eventually turned around and went back home after sliding back down a couple of times.

It's really a combination of things down here. Inexperience, plus no/bad equipment, plus generally poor conditions make for a bad result. Up north it's totally different. Experience and good equipment can mitigate a lot of the risk, even though the conditions are usually much worse.

Originally Posted by Litos

like I said, just stay home...

if you work at a place that gives 4 shits less about your safety and makes you get to work in conditions like these, you may want to find a better job....

LOL... Easier said than done.

Like I said, I'm not afraid of a little bit of ice/snow. Didn't you just stay home the other day because of some rain and said you "didn't feel safe?"

[Litos]

Originally Posted by Templar

Didn't you just stay home the other day because of some rain and said you "didn't feel safe?"

of course I did, because City Officials advised the ENTIRE Houston area to stay home...

we stayed home last Friday during the first winter storm we had - it was 28 degrees and rainy, which froze the streets of Houston...

then we stayed home on Tuesday for the same exact reason...

and this is why you saw no stranded, wrecked, stalled or mangled cars on the streets of Houston like you did in Atlanta......

sometimes the best preparation is to JUST STAY HOME

[Templar]

Originally Posted by Litos

of course I did, because City Officials advised the ENTIRE Houston area to stay home...

we stayed home last Friday during the first winter storm we had - it was 28 degrees and rainy, which froze the streets of Houston...

then we stayed home on Tuesday for the same exact reason...

and this is why you saw no stranded, wrecked, stalled or mangled cars on the streets of Houston like you did in Atlanta......

sometimes the best preparation is to JUST STAY HOME

I didn't see any wrecked cars either. I saw one guy who probably would have wrecked because his car was obviously not equipped, but he gave up and turned around. I don't live in Atlanta, so I personally don't know what the conditions were like there. I can tell you most people there were probably not prepared and probably should have stayed home, but who knows why all of them were on the road.

Lucky for you, your job obviously doesn't need you around.

I am considered mission essential personnel for the hospital I work at, but even I was off yesterday. I feel bad for the folks that had to work their ED shifts yesterday. Today it's not nearly as bad though.

[BabyrayS2k]

Originally Posted by PSUSMU

Shows how much Southerners know.. winter tires > 4WD in these conditions. 4WD doesn't help you stop.

Man fvck you. You are just mad because your weather sucks and your women are masculine and ugly as hell. Lmao

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by Templar

I'm not blaming them. It's just a fact, they won't waste their budget on snow removal, and I don't blame them. Salt trucks don't do shit when a hard freeze and ice mixed with snow in accumulating amounts comes in. I watched them use that salt/brine mixture on the highway near my house and it didn't do a damn thing. But, it makes sense for them not to spend money on more equipment when they don't need it but once every decade. Some of us don't have the luxury of just "calling in sick" whenever we feel like it, so even if I said I wasn't sure about the roads, chances are my boss would tell me to come in anyway. At no point was I not sure though, and personally I am prepared enough to drive in snow/ice from past experience.

I'm totally with most of you on the idiot drivers though. I witnessed some dumbass in a little Ford Focus this morning try his best to get up the hill leaving my neighborhood. He eventually turned around and went back home after sliding back down a couple of times.

It's really a combination of things down here. Inexperience, plus no/bad equipment, plus generally poor conditions make for a bad result. Up north it's totally different. Experience and good equipment can mitigate a lot of the risk, even though the conditions are usually much worse.



LOL... Easier said than done.

Like I said, I'm not afraid of a little bit of ice/snow. Didn't you just stay home the other day because of some rain and said you "didn't feel safe?"

I will tell you this, when bad weather rolls through here is could be days until they actual clear the roads around my house, we have the same issue local towns do not want to spend money on cleaning the road until it all the weather stops. However, it does not stop me from getting around, it is just common sense, I will admit I been an idiot with my BMW and got caught with my summer performance tire on when the weather got bad, but I never got stuck. I know how to deal with it.

I would not give the north too much credit having all the right equipment, if they choose not to use it. Out town looks at this way, it does not cost them anything if you wreck your car, but if they damn their truck or use tons of salt unnecessarily they can not spend money on their pet projects.

[AlpineSwift]

[Fifty3bags]

Originally Posted by Templar

I didn't see any wrecked cars either. I saw one guy who probably would have wrecked because his car was obviously not equipped, but he gave up and turned around. I don't live in Atlanta, so I personally don't know what the conditions were like there. I can tell you most people there were probably not prepared and probably should have stayed home, but who knows why all of them were on the road.

Lucky for you, your job obviously doesn't need you around.

I am considered mission essential personnel for the hospital I work at, but even I was off yesterday. I feel bad for the folks that had to work their ED shifts yesterday. Today it's not nearly as bad though.

I agree most people should have stayed at home, but from what I've heard (my fiance lives in Atl) they didn't start closing things down until after the snow started to fall and/or stick. So people left and were out on the roads unprepared trying to get home and caused all the major roads to be backed up which got worse after the accidents started from all the ice. If the city would have closed schools/businesses down the night before, then most of the chaos could have been controlled.

It wasn't bad here in Dothan, there was ice on the roads. But the local gov't closed all roads in the city and outlying towns to avoid this trouble and told people to stay home. Unfortunately since I work at a nuclear plant, we don't shut it down and most people had to go in to work. We were all advised before that there would be ice on the roads and to go slow. Even after all this I counted 5 accidents on the way to work yesterday.

[PSUSMU]

Originally Posted by BabyrayS2k

Man fvck you. You are just mad because your weather sucks and your women are masculine and ugly as hell. Lmao

You live in Birmingham, Alabama, the 5th worst state in the country.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...ng-102547.html

[PINeely]

Originally Posted by PSUSMU

You live in Birmingham, Alabama, the 5th worst state in the country.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...ng-102547.html

And I live in the worst, what of it? I would live a thousand lives here before moving back up to NY. Trust me, I used to think that it was a shithole here too before I moved. Imagine my surprise to find some of the best-kept secrets in the country, our beautiful southern states.

To address your snow tire comment, yes we would all be in much better shape right now if we all had snow tires. But nobody here is going to buy a set of them if this happens once in a decade. Be reasonable man. Most winters it doesn't even go below freezing but two or three times. If you went to a tire shop asking for snow tires they would look at you like you've lost your mind.

[KingOfJericho]

I keep people writing "salt trucks" but I hope they're aware that it's just a regular dump truck with a salt spreader attached. The spreaders are $5-10k each and a couple of passes on each stretch of highway prior to the storm would have prevented this entire fuck up. If each depot gets three of them, they can cover a huge portion of the highway in two passes.

[Litos]

Originally Posted by Fifty3bags

I agree most people should have stayed at home, but from what I've heard (my fiance lives in Atl) they didn't start closing things down until after the snow started to fall and/or stick.

piss poor planning by city officials with no safety procedures and little to no common sense......

[Templar]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

I keep people writing "salt trucks" but I hope they're aware that it's just a regular dump truck with a salt spreader attached. The spreaders are $5-10k each and a couple of passes on each stretch of highway prior to the storm would have prevented this entire fuck up. If each depot gets three of them, they can cover a huge portion of the highway in two passes.

No, it wouldn't have.

When you have an actual accumulation of snow, you need the roads to be cleared in addition to the "salt spreading dump trucks" putting more salt down as the roads are cleared. It's more involved than just spreading a little salt before a storm.

I drove home on Tuesday while it was 68 degrees here and saw the truck spread the stuff on the highway. Most of that road was a sheet of ice this morning.