Tesla P85D VS Audi RS7 Dragrace

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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

It's funny how so many people are only concerned about straight line speed, then an electric car comes along that can shine in some of those comparisons and all of a sudden people get b***-hurt. It's amazingly technology. No one is saying its a better car because it wins one performance parameter, but it works and practical. This is the future. But already works and will get better from here on out.

A FAIR comparison was not performed, and that was the basis for my gripe.
The Tesla is a quick car to about 80mph from a dead stop, but it isn't a fast car by any means once already moving.
those drag videos are all conducted in the Tesla's favor and unfair to the other vehicles.
It would be like a player comparison of free throw shooting between Shaq and Steph Curry and then concluding that since Curry is a far superior free throw shooter, he is definitively a better NBA player than Shaq.

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When it's going 5mph, it's already moving, so if it goes to 80 fast, your comparison is invalid.

The world isn't fair.

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Part of the issue with Tesla--and why people seem to love pointing it out when it gets beat-- is that when you go to look at one the sales people invariably try to claim it is the "fastest car" out there only because its 0-60 times are fast. A few times I got the feeling it was on the verge of a religious belief how good they thought the Tesla is. One sales guy told me the new SUV will be "the best car in the world".

I think many, including myself, think the performance claims are disingenuous. Specifically, trying to compare the performance to some super car/mega cars yet completely ignoring the fact that a tesla would get obliterated on a track (or 60-120 accelleration) vs any one of the cars they compare to orally.

In reality, it does accelerate fast zero to sixty fast. It has a lot of storage and some smart features. However, given its price, the seats are a joke and the interior is also not so great compared to other circa 100K sedans. Not saying it is a bad car--in fact for an electric car it is great. Tesla, however, does not have much competition yet. It will be interesting to see what the Germans come up with when they get full swing into electric cars. I think Tesla will have to vastly improve the interior when that happens.

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Originally Posted by galt

Part of the issue with Tesla--and why people seem to love pointing it out when it gets beat-- is that when you go to look at one the sales people invariably try to claim it is the "fastest car" out there only because its 0-60 times are fast. A few times I got the feeling it was on the verge of a religious belief how good they thought the Tesla is. One sales guy told me the new SUV will be "the best car in the world".

Same **** in a different package, nothing new. Subaru has been claiming for years to "not look at the HP numbers, look at the 0-60 times". This is because they were doing 5K clutch-drop launches to get WRXs and other cars to decent 0-60 times, while the passing and rolling times were miserable and lagged far behind competitor's cars. This is what salesman sold though....

The tesla can be the fastest car in one or a few areas. We seem to have a hyper-sensitivity to straight-line performance for some reason, so when something comes along that can be faster in some straight line comparisons, it illicits a unwarranted negative reaction IMO.

It may not be the best car ever, the cheapest car ever, the fastest car ever, the roomiest car ever, but it is a landmark car no matter how you slice it. It will be remembered as the first practical electric car brought to the masses.

BTW, people raced those subarus all the time to 60 or in 1/8 mile competitions where they wouldn't be overcome by the higher whp cars. I may have "taken" more than a few cars that would beat me in other situations/measures...

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Originally Posted by fcman

It's an impressive car but the fanboys get out of hand. People comparing it to the GTR and even some proper super cars (and that hellcat video where the Challenger just does a massive burnout and people then claiming the Tesla is faster, I mean come on), it's just a bit absurd. But I think it's because it attracts a lot of people who aren't car people, so you're going to get those kinds of absurd comparisons. I think it's a great car, but as many owners have reported it is far from perfect and no where near the "second coming of Jesus" hype surrounding it.

Honestly this sums it up. The only people I see who get excited by the Tesla are the kind of people who drive Prius'. The P85D has impressive stats, but no soul.

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AppleCar will be the best car in the world.

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Originally Posted by Levi

AppleCar will be the best car in the world.

because they invented it right?

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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

Same **** in a different package, nothing new. Subaru has been claiming for years to "not look at the HP numbers, look at the 0-60 times". This is because they were doing 5K clutch-drop launches to get WRXs and other cars to decent 0-60 times, while the passing and rolling times were miserable and lagged far behind competitor's cars. This is what salesman sold though....

The tesla can be the fastest car in one or a few areas. We seem to have a hyper-sensitivity to straight-line performance for some reason, so when something comes along that can be faster in some straight line comparisons, it illicits a unwarranted negative reaction IMO.

It may not be the best car ever, the cheapest car ever, the fastest car ever, the roomiest car ever, but it is a landmark car no matter how you slice it. It will be remembered as the first practical electric car brought to the masses.

BTW, people raced those subarus all the time to 60 or in 1/8 mile competitions where they wouldn't be overcome by the higher whp cars. I may have "taken" more than a few cars that would beat me in other situations/measures...

Yes, but Subaru does not claim to be the fastest Sedan in the world.