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      10-08-2024, 04:43 PM   #45
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Given one guys AMA on reddit account who works at random BMW dealer, the IX and i4 are the cars he sees most in his service bay. That tells one something about quality of EVs from BMW.
Just one man’s experience here, but my i3S was the only trouble free BMW I’ve ever owned loved that little thing. Have seriously considered trading the G82 for an iX about a dozen times.
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This is what I would expect the next generation M8 to look like….if they were going to make another M8.
Wonder what happened with that m8 prototype with the red lamps… would be a nice final edition reveal…
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      10-08-2024, 05:05 PM   #47
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Asked an automotive expert who from German car companies will sell to Chinese finest. BMW was his answer without hesitation. Dunno.

Hypercar should not be EV, if I look at the rather poor success Porsche has with theirs today (Mission X?).

make a car with a V12, make 1000 of them, and world will not care but enthusiasys will buy all of them. heck, make anything that looks cool, but dont make it a statement about how green you are.. Crazy idea for the woke BMW management.

Given one guys AMA on reddit account who works at random BMW dealer, the IX and i4 are the cars he sees most in his service bay. That tells one something about quality of EVs from BMW.
Not sure how big that reddit users dealership is but I would say only 1 in 15 BMW’s that come through our service department are electric, very low rate of failures.

And that’s saying a lot living in a environment such as Arizona, this heat eats away at BEV’s.
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      10-08-2024, 06:29 PM   #48
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This is what I would expect the next generation M8 to look like….if they were going to make another M8.
I concur. It does have a silhouette of a serious GT car and aesthetically it would make sensuous 8 Series. If the next M8 looked even remotely like this it would be really badass.

Personally, I would like to see a return of the 6 Series and be slotted under the 8 Series as a smaller, lighter, sexier, more intuitive GT car but with a lot more “sport” imbued within it’s chassis.
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Just one man’s experience here, but my i3S was the only trouble free BMW I’ve ever owned loved that little thing. Have seriously considered trading the G82 for an iX about a dozen times.
I had a G80 previously and now own an iX. Don't miss the M3 at all honestly. Traffic is so congested in Socal that the times I could use the real performance of any of my M cars I can count on one hand. Plus the iX has been incredibly reliable and just a great daily driver. Not a fan of the looks, but everything else is amazing.
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I concur. It does have a silhouette of a serious GT car and aesthetically it would make sensuous 8 Series. If the next M8 looked even remotely like this it would be really badass.

Personally, I would like to see a return of the 6 Series and be slotted under the 8 Series as a smaller, lighter, sexier, more intuitive GT car but with a lot more “sport” imbued within it’s chassis.
Based on the rumors, you may be getting what you want, sort of. Supposedly, the 8 and 4 series are being discontinued at the end of production of the current models to be replaced by a 6 series with the M6 running a hybrid setup like the M5.
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Based on the rumors, you may be getting what you want, sort of. Supposedly, the 8 and 4 series are being discontinued at the end of production of the current models to be replaced by a 6 series with the M6 running a hybrid setup like the M5.
No 6 Series coming. Faith of 8 Series undecided yet. One model likely to survive: Gran Coupe. Definitely no M6 coming.

Sometimes rumors are just rumors
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Worse case scenario it would probably be R4 hybrid with a lot of power even better if they would make R6 hybrid like we have now and ofc V8 hybrid would be awesome but considering Van Meel was bragging about 1 Megawat power / 1360 ps and quad motor setup plus new " hand of god " computer .

We also officially know M is already testing the quad motor setup using i4 it's on YT and that thing they showed lately in spy shots old but modern american retro hatchback thing .

So it will probably be a full EV couple hundred ponies quad motor super car . I wonder if Polestar guy will design it because his hyper concept car is epic .
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Just one man’s experience here, but my i3S was the only trouble free BMW I’ve ever owned loved that little thing. Have seriously considered trading the G82 for an iX about a dozen times.
Make sure you Lease it…
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      10-09-2024, 12:10 AM   #55
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Looking forward to it. It will be powerful, smooth and quiet. Too many car makers are focused on building a cheap BEV for the masses. There wasn’t any that interested me until the i5 M60. It would be hard for me to find something I love more, but I will definitely take a look.
Honestly, there isn’t enough cheap battery electric vehicles for the masses

Beyond that I hope it’s something completely bad-ass. A performance hybrid would be fine with me as long as it’s a plug-in and not a serial hybrid

I’m all for a performance hybrid as long as it’s something extremely capable and not a half-baked attempt like the late i8
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EV supercar is dead on arrival. Rimac can’t even sell the 250 cars they planned for Nevera (less than 150 sold in 2.5 years). And Porsche was embarrassed when they showed the Mission X to prospective buyers at Monterrey when they all said they wouldn’t spend $1M on an EV supercar and uniformly said they would only want a ICE or Hybrid setup.
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You would think I would learn not to read these type of stories but my dog got me up early and I could not go back to sleep.
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ill hold my response till more comes out
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ill hold my response till more comes out
There is nothing more coming out. That car does not exist yet, at least not in production form. BMW makes a supercar nearly every year, but the business case never really gets approved. It was close twice: once with the I16 M Vision Next and this year with another EV supercar which was exciting in its own way, but still an EV which is tough these days.
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There is nothing more coming out. That car does not exist yet, at least not in production form. BMW makes a supercar nearly every year, but the business case never really gets approved. It was close twice: once with the I16 M Vision Next and this year with another EV supercar which was exciting in its own way, but still an EV which is tough these days.
It was in the works they spoke to McLaren but covid stopped the project
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Based on the rumors, you may be getting what you want, sort of. Supposedly, the 8 and 4 series are being discontinued at the end of production of the current models to be replaced by a 6 series with the M6 running a hybrid setup like the M5.
I heard a rumor years ago that the 6 Series would return to compete in the segment that the Porsche 911 occupies. The 8 Series would go away but there could be room for both.

Make the 8 Series slightly more upmarket since it fights above it weight class anyway and just label it an Alpina. Make it special!

Then that leaves more market room for the return of the 6 Series. Smaller, intuitive, beautiful chassis dynamics, hydraulic steering (not going to happen, 6-cylinder and V8 engine options, and available in Coupe, Cabriolet, Gran Coupe, and via special order a damn Targa version.

Base, M Sport, and M GmbH versions.

Oh, and it should have jaw-dropping and panty dropping styling that echos previous BMW style inspirations (nothing recent) and while futuristic looking forward to set the tone that BMW and BMW M are taking zero prisoners with it.

If those two cars go away as you have mentioned there will be holes in the lineup that will be need to be filled.
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Kinda looks like that hub motor thing with the high ass

Edit - I mean this thing
I want that one, too
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I hope it's not another crappy i8
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It was in the works they spoke to McLaren but covid stopped the project
Not entirely true. The I16 was a BMW project, 4 cylinder hybrid, i8 successor. The McLaren rumors weren't much more than simple conversations, but no where near a Toyota-BMW partnership conversation
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