Which car company has the best hot hatch?

No one · 03-23-2019, 03:25 PM

RWD makes a league of it's own.

How I'd hate to go back to FWD no matter how "hot" it would be!

4WD (/AWD - whatever difference that makes

) are of no interest either (although I never tried) - FWD is implied there.

M Coupe · 03-23-2019, 05:13 PM

2002 Z3 M Coupe!! Oh wait, "has" not "had'. Sorry my bad.

Teutonic · 03-23-2019, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

An M2 five door.

Amen
I would be happy even with a M140i in four doors. That way, my half would love it too.
Just bring it in North America for God's sake!!!

SCOTT26 · 03-23-2019, 08:18 PM

The upcoming new BMW M135i xDrive.

Red Bread · 03-23-2019, 08:36 PM

Good to know I don't need to come back to BMW anytime soon. Did losing all your designers to Kia really derail things this badly?

GuidoK · 03-23-2019, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The upcoming new BMW M135i xDrive.

Won't that be in essence a fwd car with haldex? (with 2.0 4 pot)

Just more of the same that both Audi/VW and Mercedes are already doing very well...
(so it'll probably also get its ass kicked on track by both the civic type R and the megane RS, for much less money

)

markymark666 · 03-27-2019, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

Won't that be in essence a fwd car with haldex? (with 2.0 4 pot)

Just more of the same that both Audi/VW and Mercedes are already doing very well...
(so it'll probably also get its ass kicked on track by both the civic type R and the megane RS, for much less money

)

Agree and really sad. 6cyl RWD was the unique selling point.
But perhaps this is just the lst generation of petrol driven hot hatches

Teutonic · 03-27-2019, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by markymark666

Agree and really sad. 6cyl RWD was the unique selling point.

Agree, this move just put them in the same niche which has plenty to choose from. The RWD behaviour was the thing that set them apart.

c1pher · 03-27-2019, 10:29 PM

Now that I’ve checked one out, I really like the GLA45 AMG.

M Coupe · 03-30-2019, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by c1pher

Now that I’ve checked one out, I really like the GLA45 AMG.

hmmm, you have planted a seed in my head now. I am going to check it out in person today.

c1pher · 03-30-2019, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by M Coupe

hmmm, you have planted a seed in my head now. I am going to check it out in person today.

If you are okay with the interior and the turbo lag you will love it.

markymark666 · 04-13-2019, 11:56 AM

Perhaps Audi S1?

c1pher · 04-13-2019, 12:18 PM

Also SQ5 and X4 M40i.

markymark666 · 04-14-2019, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by c1pher

Also SQ5 and X4 M40i.

As seen here:

But not really a sleeper...

View Poll Results: The best Hot Hatches are made by...
BMW	10	18.18%
Audi	7	12.73%
Mercedes	2	3.64%
VW	16	29.09%
Ford	10	18.18%
Hyundai	3	5.45%
Citroën	0	0%
Other	7	12.73%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

03-23-2019, 03:25 PM	#45
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04-13-2019, 11:56 AM	#56
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