F1 2024: Australian GP - Melbourne (Mar 24)

[M5Rick]

Albon tub is too badly damaged and Sargeant is out of the AGP as Albon takes over his car. Sargeants car will be fitted with Albons PU and gearbox from his own pool in accordance with the rules.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

*****

Chas 4/10's quicker than MAX in FP2, roll on FP3.

[Artemis]

Max as Grouchy Smurf at Melbourne because of getting held up:

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Albon tub is too badly damaged and Sargeant is out of the AGP as Albon takes over his car. Sargeants car will be fitted with Albons PU and gearbox from his own pool in accordance with the rules.

Sergeant taking one for the team:
"‘Consummate professional’ Sargeant calls giving up car to Albon in Australia ‘the hardest moment in my career’"
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...6DIVr4sJmuqpNd

With imagined James Vowles team radio voice: "Logan, it's James. We will invert the cars for the rest of the race weekend."

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Albon having a shunt during FP1:

Sargeant is the new Latifi. Does he have a rich daddy keeping him in the sport too? Worthless

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Albon tub is too badly damaged and Sargeant is out of the AGP as Albon takes over his car. Sargeants car will be fitted with Albons PU and gearbox from his own pool in accordance with the rules.

You wonder if the cost cap system shouldn't be set up differently.
Williams doesn't have a spare chassis in Melbourne because apparently transport costs are too high for Melbourne.
Obviously transport costs are high for every team, but it's also a result of having so many races per year all over the globe.
Shouldn't transport costs fall outside of the cost cap maybe?

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Sargeant is the new Latifi. Does he have a rich daddy keeping him in the sport too? Worthless

Several drivers experienced 'moments' eating pebbles or mowing the lawn (especially in Turn 10):

• FP1 Highlights video: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...RPXhlaVLfKAAe8
• FP2 Highlights video: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...eD479EfKZqBJx2

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Sergeant taking one for the team:
"‘Consummate professional’ Sargeant calls giving up car to Albon in Australia ‘the hardest moment in my career’"
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...6DIVr4sJmuqpNd

With imagined James Vowles team radio voice: "Logan, it's James. We will invert the cars for the rest of the race weekend."

Tough on the 'Sarge' but that's life.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

You wonder if the cost cap system shouldn't be set up differently.
Williams doesn't have a spare chassis in Melbourne because apparently transport costs are too high for Melbourne.
Obviously transport costs are high for every team, but it's also a result of having so many races per year all over the globe.
Shouldn't transport costs fall outside of the cost cap maybe?

I haven't looked into the cost cap that much and didn't think it applied to actual transport costs. Now that you mentioned that it is then I think it should not be anything to do with the FIA cost cap as well as food and stay expenses for the teams, it should relate to expenditure and tech on the actual cars.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I haven't looked into the cost cap that much and didn't think it applied to actual transport costs. Now that you mentioned that it is then I think it should not be anything to do with the FIA cost cap as well as food and stay expenses for the teams, it should relate to expenditure and tech on the actual cars.

Cost cap or no cost cap, transport bills got to be footed.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Sargeant is the new Latifi. Does he have a rich daddy keeping him in the sport too? Worthless

Yes, Sar has a very wealthy Palm Beach, FL family (or Ft Lauderdale I forget). It's a shame they kept him when guys like Law are available and far more talented.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Max as Grouchy Smurf at Melbourne because of getting held up:

Why did Max miss 1st half of FP2?

I imagine RB still have not turned the engines up yet...

[OG Shark]

Williams is a freaking dumpster fire. Need to bring in Andretti to replace them - many problems solved...

Look forward to watching Albon make it all the way to P14 instead of Sargeant's P16...

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

Williams is a freaking dumpster fire. Need to bring in Andretti to replace them - many problems solved...

Yes replace one dumpster fire with another dumpster fire.
James Vowles will get it as right as possible.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

Why did Max miss 1st half of FP2?

I imagine RB still have not turned the engines up yet...

Floor damage when he missed Turn 10 during FP1:

See 01:57-02:09
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...RPXhlaVLfKAAe8

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Yes replace one dumpster fire with another dumpster fire.
James Vowles will get it as right as possible.

"Williams boss Vowles labels Albon/Sargeant chassis swap situation in Melbourne ‘unacceptable in modern day F1’"
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...D8sM5JU3zX0wrd

James Vowles was shocked to realize that Williams used to work with an Excel spreadsheet to manage parts:

"The shocking details behind an F1 team's painful revolution"
The Race - Mar 19, 2024
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/s...f1-revolution/

"It is not an exaggeration to say that up to and including at least the initial work on the 2024 Williams, its car builds were handled using Microsoft Excel, with a list of around 20,000 individual components and parts.
Unsurprisingly, ex-Mercedes man Vowles - someone used to class-leading operations and systems – had a damning verdict for that: “The Excel list was a joke. Impossible to navigate and impossible to update.”
Managing a car build is not just about listing all the components needed. There wasn't data on the cost of components, how long they took to build, how many were in the system to be built.
“Take a front wing,” says Vowles. “A front wing is about 400 different bits. And when you say I would like one front wing, what you need to kick off is the metallic bits and the carbon bits that make up that single front wing.
“You need to go into the system, and they need to be ordered. Is a front wing more important than a front wishbone in that circumstance? When do they go through, when is the inspection?
“When you start tracking now hundreds of 1000s of components through your organisation moving around, an Excel spreadsheet is useless.
“You need to know where each one of those independent components are, how long it will take before it's complete, how long it will take before it goes to inspection. If there's been any problems with inspections, whether it has to go back again.
“And once you start putting that level of complexity in which is where modern Formula 1 is, the Excel spreadsheet falls over, and humans fall over. And that's exactly where we are.
“There is more structure and system in our processes now. But they are nowhere near good enough. Nowhere near.”
Missing that raw level of data makes it easier to understand how 20,000 bits end up in limbo. In the scenario Vowles describes, an Excel spreadsheet is “useless”, with emails bouncing back and forth between people and departments chasing missing information. Vowles recalls hearing shop floor workers at Williams saying ‘I don't know where this component is’ and having to physically look around the factory for certain parts."

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Artemis

"Williams boss Vowles labels Albon/Sargeant chassis swap situation in Melbourne ‘unacceptable in modern day F1’"
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...D8sM5JU3zX0wrd

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Floor damage when he missed Turn 10 during FP1:

See 01:57-02:09
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...RPXhlaVLfKAAe8

Ah...yes I watched highlights and seems everyone was having issues there. Floor was OK though?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by m5rick

tough on the 'sarge' but that's life.

Logan Sargeant

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Now that you mentioned that it is then I think it should not be anything to do with the FIA cost cap as well as food and stay expenses for the teams, it should relate to expenditure and tech on the actual cars.

There is of course another somewhat immoral side of the costcap, and that is the salaries of the normal personel.
I'm all for teams having the same amount of money and a fair chance for every team, and not the previous situation that some teams got to spend over 500 million a year where other teams had to do with maybe 50 million (so 1/10), but with the costcap, you also create the situation that wages of personell are under heavy stress. You create the situation that people might accept a lower wage than in other industries (looking at the skillset) just because of the love for the sport. But that also means a lower wage for a complete family with kids etc that have to be put through college etc.
So there is an unhealty side to it, even if it makes the sport more fair.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The Sarge is thinking WTF.. it wasn't even my fault !!
I was explaining before in my post to someone, if it wasn't for the cost cap involved in the transportation then they'd have a spare tub, that's if they got one anyway.
If not, Williams are somewhat disorganised.

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