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      06-20-2024, 05:20 PM   #45
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the way i see it, EV is like a cheat code, reaching numbers that would be hard to reach in a gas powered car. imo it’s still cheating(not tryna call EV owners cheaters here, sorry &#128514 and cheating is still unfun for the people who still appreciate the fun of gas cars. (although, in EV there is no more $5/gallon &#128514

i’m still team GAS ALL THE WAY
And way back when, people were team steam engine. I’m just glad I live in a time when I get to see a technology shift. I remember my great grandmother telling me about her father crashing into their barn because his new gas car didn’t stop when he said ‘whoa’. She also got to see man land on the moon. I bought an electric vehicle because I wanted to own one before I die. I’ve driven gas cars since 1973.
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      06-20-2024, 05:22 PM   #46
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And way back when, people were team steam engine. I’m just glad I live in a time when I get to see a technology shift. I remember my great grandmother telling me about her father crashing into their barn because his new gas car didn’t stop when he said ‘whoa’. She also got to see man land on the moon. I bought an electric vehicle because I wanted to own one before I die. I’ve driven gas cars since 1973.
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Yeah you might not realize this, but "lightweight" and "EV" definitely do not go in the same sentence
Actually, that is exactly my point: that I realize that this would actually be an achievement and breakthrough.
Instead of slapping more power on a heavy pig and cleverly hide it with electronic wizardry.

This "next year's model will have 10hp more" progression is getting boring.
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      06-20-2024, 05:45 PM   #48
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1341 hp! It better does 0-60 under 2 seconds! lol
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A big battery, complex cooling systems, and 4 motors sounds super heavy, and especially concerning if those motors will be unsprung weight. If the under/over is 5500 lbs I think I’d bet the over.
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Not much interest. Ultra heavy car with useless power. Who supplies tires? And brakes? 1300 hp is only suitable for track use and I bet you can't drive more than two laps on any track before cooking tires and brakes. So, it's 200 hp more than Taycan GT. Which is a nice car in theory, but nobody needs it and buy it.

Like many of you have said - bring us some smart, light and sporty EV. And outside M-division, something ultra-efficient and ultimately clean sheet stuff life VW XL1 and so on. With BMW stuffing. I'll bring my money immediately. Yet another set of useless megapower and megaweight is following XM road.
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well the rimac is a bit 💰 this probably is going to be 150k or less and it better be able to handle nice and drift mode...
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      06-20-2024, 06:19 PM   #52
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I’ll stick with my car that uses dinosaur fossils to run. Batteries aren’t anywhere where they need to be to get a battery car.
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And way back when, people were team steam engine. I’m just glad I live in a time when I get to see a technology shift. I remember my great grandmother telling me about her father crashing into their barn because his new gas car didn’t stop when he said ‘whoa’. She also got to see man land on the moon. I bought an electric vehicle because I wanted to own one before I die. I’ve driven gas cars since 1973.
And shortly after the steam engines came EVs, which were replaced the the clearly superior gas solutions. Maybe we'll go full circle and see steam engines again.
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      06-20-2024, 06:47 PM   #54
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I wonder how the exhaust note will be?
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      06-20-2024, 06:50 PM   #55
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A big battery, complex cooling systems, and 4 motors sounds super heavy, and especially concerning if those motors will be unsprung weight. If the under/over is 5500 lbs I think I’d bet the over.
If the motors are oil and liquid cooled, they will be inboard of the wheels on axleshafts.
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the way i see it, EV is like a cheat code, reaching numbers that would be hard to reach in a gas powered car. imo it’s still cheating(not tryna call EV owners cheaters here, sorry &#128514 and cheating is still unfun for the people who still appreciate the fun of gas cars. (although, in EV there is no more $5/gallon &#128514

i’m still team GAS ALL THE WAY
First, the same could said when cars replaced horses. Cars are cheating! (Also, see bicycles, which also preceded cars).


Second “Gas all the way”… Hope you don’t have or want kids.

(Oh, see you’re 16. You are the future. That’s even sadder).
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First, the same could said when cars replaced horses. Cars are cheating! (Also, see bicycles which preceded cars).


Second “Gas all the way”… Hope you don’t have or want kids.
LOL don’t worry i don’t 😂😂😂 but if my future wife does i’m screwed 😂
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First, the same could said when cars replaced horses. Cars are cheating! (Also, see bicycles which preceded cars).


Second “Gas all the way”… Hope you don’t have or want kids.

(Oh, see you’re 16. You are the future. That’s even sadder).
My son is 19 and he is the one that got me interested in EVs. He is extremely angry at how people are destroying the planet. He doesn’t want kids either. Too many humans.
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      06-20-2024, 07:16 PM   #59
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They will.
Do them a favor and don’t make them listen to the F/G exhaust.
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It's happening!

BMW Says First M Electric Sedan Will “Beat Everything You’ve Ever Seen”

According to BMW M's boss, the EV's quad-motor powertrain can deliver as much as 1,341 hp



https://www.carscoops.com/2024/06/bm...uve-ever-seen/
  • The Neue Klasse-based model is being tested with four electric motors.
  • This potent new EV should be the quickest-acceleration BMW ever.
  • An 800-volt electrical architecture will underpin the model.

A few short years ago, the idea of an all-electric car from the BMW M brand sounded like sacrilege, but such a car is in the works, and based on statements made by the M division’s boss, it will be extraordinary.

BMW has been working on a powerful, quad-motor setup for quite some time and is expected to launch its first Neue Klasse-based performance sedan in 2026 or 2027. It will be sold alongside the combustion-powered M3 and M boss Frank van Meel has said the powertrain is good for as much as 1,341 hp (1,000 kW) or one Megawatt of power.

According to van Meel, the new EV “will beat everything you have ever seen.” To achieve such a lofty statement, BMW is developing its own electric motors and believes that like the S68 engine of the M5 and the S58 of the M3 and M4, its e-motors “will be a benchmark.”

Motor Trend anticipates the new electric performance sedan from the German brand will be the fastest accelerating car in its history, demolishing the 0-60 mph (0-96 km/h) sprint in less than 3 seconds. The e-motors could be water and oil-cooled, and an 800-volt electrical architecture will enable ultra-fast DC charging. Van Meel has also revealed that the batteries will have a different chemistry than those of other Neue Klasse models and that they will have an improved cooling system.

The use of electric motors won’t just allow BMW to chase monumental power figures. The automaker has engineered a system that can control the car’s chassis and precisely alter the torque at each wheel, improving the car’s dynamics and making BMW “feel like Alice in Wonderland,” according to van Meel. BMW’s M boss added it will have “neutral, linear, and predictable” handling.

BMW is also considering a two-motor performance EV that is sold exclusively with rear-wheel drive. This model would use similar hardware and software but have less grunt than the quad-motor version. A fully-fledged M version of the first Neue Klasse X SUV could also be a future addition to the firm’s EV family.

Note: This article contains renderings from Fully Leaded that are not related to nor endorsed by BMW.
Sounds like they are really going to keep the 'weight' down!
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“This potent new EV should be the quickest-acceleration BMW ever”.

Sounds like top speed 210kmh(130mph)
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      06-20-2024, 08:05 PM   #63
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How about a 1,000 mile range instead?
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      06-20-2024, 08:25 PM   #64
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Which specific car are you referring to that you think could potentially outperform the Rimac Nevera or other four-door vehicles? If it’s doesn’t have ///M mirrors or an S designated engine then it’s not a real ///M cars. Why can’t we just just have a 500hp, long-range but lighter sedan? No need for 1300hp. What are your thoughts on this specific features when determining the authenticity of an ///M car?
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Can’t wait, been hearing these rumors for years now. Bring it on, baby
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Anyone else becoming desensitized to high powered EVs, or is it just me?

Well balanced cars >>> over powered straight line speed
(Unless you’re actually into drag racing)
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