Video: Here’s Why BMW M Cars Will Shoot Up in Value

[XsltAnalyst]

Well another reason why they'll shoot up in value is because of DDmuro and Jalopnik and all other so-called "journalists". Maybe some of them stock up first then hype up whatever they want to unload? Who knows, right?

Maybe some people don't like moving on with the times and want to hang on to the past.

I heard for about the same price as low mileage E39 M5 you can have a brand new Chevy SS sedan, a modern equivalent replacement for the v8 sports sedan that is very similar in specs (size, weight, hp, driving experience) to E39 M5. Not my words, they're from car and driver. No matter how good the E39 M5 is, it is still going to suffer from common E39 age related reliability issues.

There are always going to be "analog" cars available for sale, and I'd rather have that along with the new car warranty, safety and whatnot.

Also, people should stop complaining about the BMW switching to all forced induction. Just because a car is NA doesn't make automatically make it a good car. Some of the best cars in the world are turbocharged (F40, Skyline GTR, Evo, Supra, etc). I think it's the awful throttle programming that's what left most with bitter taste about the turbo cars.

[K-M3]

Originally Posted by Andyh1

This is the main reason why I have stayed in a certain time frame. The are the BMW's cars I have owned :
2003 BMW 325i sport
2005 BMW 330i ZHP (miss this car)
2003 BMW 530i sport
1998 BMW M3 E36
Current weekend warrior 2006 BMW Z4M R

What I have found out is that the Z is even more raw than the E36 M.
I don't know what it is but there is something about an 'Analog' car.

My daily is a Q50 Infiniti, a very nice car. BUT, a very numb car compared to the Z4M.
Great gadgets, power, comfort, but absolutely lacks the exhilarating factor.

Maybe we are getting older, maybe it's a bit if a nostalgic feeling, but there is nothing like driving a NA straight 6 while rowing your own gears.
Drop the roof, and it's what I call 'therapy'.

For all these reasons and more, we are hanging on to these cars; and people on the outside are starting to notice.

U penned it just about right. I would like to add that it's not just cars but the world of motorcycles is also going very "gadgety". Shopping around for a sports tourer these days is what I call acronym alley !! and to think that the E9X generation was not too long ago considered to be heavy in electronics :-)

[KevinM]

Fun video to watch as a long-term E39 M5 (since 2004) and Z4M coupe owner (since 2007). I agree with a lot of Doug's points. While I can't say having "too much" power for the road is not fun at times in my F80, I do enjoy the fact that I can more or less wring out the M5 and (especially) the Z4M coupe without fear of getting out of control and/or going to jail. And I can do it with traction control OFF. I think I've turned DSC off completely once in the F80 (usually use MDM)...

Anyway, I'm keeping the E39 and Z4M forever (at least, current plans). The E39 M5 is still the best all-around car I have ever owned.

[wdb]

Originally Posted by JustChris

At work and can't play the video...what's the main reason why...electric is coming?

Video is of some annoying man with an annoying face and annoying voice pretending to know a flipping thing about cars just because he works for autotrader or somesuch. What a waste of time.

[3M TAPE]

Originally Posted by KevinM

Fun video to watch as a long-term E39 M5 (since 2004) and Z4M coupe owner (since 2007). I agree with a lot of Doug's points. While I can't say having "too much" power for the road is not fun at times in my F80, I do enjoy the fact that I can more or less wring out the M5 and (especially) the Z4M coupe without fear of getting out of control and/or going to jail. And I can do it with traction control OFF. I think I've turned DSC off completely once in the F80 (usually use MDM)...

Anyway, I'm keeping the E39 and Z4M forever (at least, current plans). The E39 M5 is still the best all-around car I have ever owned.

E39 M5 Sterling Gray with Caramel interior is a keeper my friend

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by XsltAnalyst

Well another reason why they'll shoot up in value is because of DDmuro and Jalopnik and all other so-called "journalists". Maybe some of them stock up first then hype up whatever they want to unload? Who knows, right?

Maybe some people don't like moving on with the times and want to hang on to the past.

I heard for about the same price as low mileage E39 M5 you can have a brand new Chevy SS sedan, a modern equivalent replacement for the v8 sports sedan that is very similar in specs (size, weight, hp, driving experience) to E39 M5. Not my words, they're from car and driver. No matter how good the E39 M5 is, it is still going to suffer from common E39 age related reliability issues.

There are always going to be "analog" cars available for sale, and I'd rather have that along with the new car warranty, safety and whatnot.

Also, people should stop complaining about the BMW switching to all forced induction. Just because a car is NA doesn't make automatically make it a good car. Some of the best cars in the world are turbocharged (F40, Skyline GTR, Evo, Supra, etc). I think it's the awful throttle programming that's what left most with bitter taste about the turbo cars.

A turbocharged car will never be as responsive as a naturally aspirated car. Turbines have to spool.

[mPlasticDesign]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

Yeah, but it also was a porker.

Would I like the E9x to be lighter? Of course. Is it a porker? yes. But relative to the E46 M3 I never understood this comment in that context. I always thought the E46 M3(I owned an AW 2005) was a strange progression. The car got heavier by ~200lbs over the E36 M3(I owned a '99 US spec 240hp) but had the practically the same power as the EVO E36 M3(333 vs. 321) already available in Europe. I think the US was just happy to finally get a real M engine that they didn't care.

However, when the E9x M3(I owned two E90's and one E92) came out with 414hp that was quite a jump in power that came with the additional ~200lbs weight over the E46. Last bespoke M enigne, last of the NA M engine, still lighter than ALL its competitors at the time...In my opinion, this is the last great "analogue" M car! Talk about power that is more than you will ever need, yet does not overpower the chassis.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

A turbocharged car will never be as responsive as a naturally aspirated car. Turbines have to spool.

...and electric cars are more responsive than both. Each has its pros and cons. Right now, FI has many many pros over NA. Pick and choose what's right for you. FI is more efficient and more powerful. The world moves on.

[Bamaben]

Originally Posted by MSups6

Rarity and especially demand, which for most M cars there will be little in the future.

A 00s M5 or 90s will never be what a 70s Mustang is.

Thank goodness! Maybe 65 mustang but 70's mustang? Yuck

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

A turbocharged car will never be as responsive as a naturally aspirated car. Turbines have to spool.

Manual transmission turbos have to spool.

Automatic transmission turbo car's shift while they are still in boost.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

Manual transmission turbos have to spool.

Automatic transmission turbo car's shift while they are still in boost.

Or you heel-toe

[-BEASTMW-]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

Manual transmission turbos have to spool.

Automatic transmission turbo car's shift while they are still in boost.

Apparently you never power out of corners?

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by -BEASTMW-

Apparently you never power out of corners?

Apparently you have no idea what I'm talking about.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

Manual transmission turbos have to spool.

Automatic transmission turbo car's shift while they are still in boost.

Turbines have to spool no matter what the transmission.

[Mthrice]

Originally Posted by The_M_Way

Anyone notice the girl in the background at 9:38 flipping her hair unconsciously as the M3 drives by?

surprised it took 33 posts for someone to mention that

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

Turbines have to spool no matter what the transmission.

Yes but shifting a manual transmission it will have to spool back up again.

The DCT will maintaining boost while shifting.

[Scrippy]

"They" keep telling us these new cars are better....They also tend to tell us we need these new cars......If you're a sheep you'll go out and buy them.........Most if the old ones will increase your heart rate and make you sweat..........Most of the new ones will make you tranquil and nowa days drive for you. If I could find an E46 that's not fucked up and disrespected, I'd swoop it! Personally I hope this dude is wrong and nobody wants these cars. That way we can enjoy them all for ever.

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

I also watched Doug's video and couldn't agree more. But $45K to $100K ? WTH!!

I currently drive a e39 540i 6speed(M5 lite lol) and can't fathom spending $45 on it, let alone $100K for an M5. The M cars are great cars but IDK if they will every get that high in prices.

Dackel

I believe you have the right e39 version!

I was close to pulling the trigger on a e39 M5 but changed my mind at the last minute by reading all the expensive work that needed to be done (one forum member mentioned $14K in 3 years) and I could not find a specimen with a spotless maintenance history.

Now I am in the lookout for a nice e9 CSi. Nowadays with the speed limits here in AUS, one can't really have a fast car and NOT get in trouble. Having test-driven a nice e9 and also an e24 635 CSi, these analogue cars give plenty of thrill without having to break speed limits. And hey are very simple to maintain as well.

If one wants the adrenaline, there are plenty of single-seaters track days and rallying schools ;-)

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

Turbines have to spool no matter what the transmission.

That's nice and all, but the stock F8X 0-60, 1/4 are all faster than any previous stock NA M3.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by jmg

That's nice and all, but the stock F8X 0-60, 1/4 are all faster than any previous stock NA M3.

Of course it is. It has significantly more torque and horsepower. Is it more fun to drive? I don't think so.

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by EmMHoLLa

As long as you're ready to pay the Porsche tax.. I have an M6GC prior to to that I had a panamera. I love both cars. I looked into the latest model panamera and the leases stink and the dealer would give little to no discount on a purchase. The Gap in price to me doesn't equal the gap in performance when looking at similarly equipped M cars. The value is with BMW when compared to Porsche.

Yup. Porsche never gives any leeway in the pricing of their cars. Definitely something to consider.

[-BEASTMW-]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

Of course it is. It has significantly more torque and horsepower. Is it more fun to drive? I don't think so.

They always come back with the "well it's faster" argument. They don't get it. There's a reason serious track cars like the 911 GT3 stay stubbornly N/A, and that's a huge part of why they're highly sought after by the most serious enthusiasts.