Still want an EV? (NO POLITICS)

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Does liking profit make me an asshole?


BTW, I ran all five of my car's engines at once this morning. The 325i was dead. Checked the other 4. Oh, shit, I also ran the diesel tractor to jump the 325i. It was the only vehicle I could get close enough for the cables to reach...

I owned few diesel engine cars in the life and I loved them. The amount of torque is unbelievable. You can run the engine non-stop all day everyday. It will never overheat even you push it very hard.... Just too bad they stop importing into Canada.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

We need to go back to the future

That I actually laughed at when I read it.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

That I actually laughed at when I read it.

What's meant by that is to keep to what we have.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

An electric 2.5 ton dinosaur...ough

Those artificial sound product by the car will give me nightmares when I go to sleep after driving

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Does liking profit make me an asshole?

One of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite economists.
If socialists understood economics, they wouldn't be socialist.
Friedrich August von Hayek

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Those artificial sound product by the car will give me nightmares when I go to sleep after driving

There's a classic Tamla Motown song called There's a Ghost in my House which would go well with those Mi60 sounds and lights

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

What's meant by that is to keep to what we have.

Yup, understood it 100%.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Those artificial sound product by the car will give me nightmares when I go to sleep after driving

Artificial ICE sounds for EV people is perfect metaphor for buying a EV to save the planet by open pit mining of battery components and environmental damaging mineral processing
Always reminds me of the The old baseball cards on the spokes trick.

[murderspice]

Originally Posted by crAbb

I5 M60

It's a 'dinosaur'.

Harry Metcalf, a highly respected UK based reviewer, tells us the inconvenient truth...

Thats actually quite scathing; and completely deserved. It looks like only the koreans and tesla are close to what consumers like in the EV market. As long as musk stays away, i hope we can see them build upon it. I was, at one time, a never-hyundaier; now i catch myself looking at their N cars

[murderspice]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

murderspice's gruel is being served now, he will get back to you soon.

I was giving his statement the thought everyman’s deserves.

[murderspice]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Does liking profit make me an asshole?


BTW, I ran all five of my car's engines at once this morning. The 325i was dead. Checked the other 4. Oh, shit, I also ran the diesel tractor to jump the 325i. It was the only vehicle I could get close enough for the cables to reach...

“I used my tractor to jump my dead cars” isnt a sick burn.

[murderspice]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

One of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite economists.
If socialists understood economics, they wouldn't be socialist.
Friedrich August von Hayek

What? No Friedman?

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

There's a classic Tamla Motown song called There's a Ghost in my House which would go well with those Mi60 sounds and lights

Stop Stop, I am gonna pee

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Artificial ICE sounds for EV people is perfect metaphor for buying a EV to save the planet by open pit mining of battery components and environmental damaging mineral processing
Always reminds me of the The old baseball cards on the spokes trick.

That's hilarious

[eugenebmw]

I saw this post and I just keep laughing

My EV friends brag about some hypothetical "0-60" scenario that would look cool on YouTube, but is illegal on public roads. Meanwhile, on road trips, they lag behind 4-6 hours because they can't find a "supercharger". By the time they finally hobble in on 1% battery, late in the evening and mentally drained from "range anxiety", I've already checked into the hotel, explored the whole town, and had dinner. Then it's storytime about how lucky they feel that they made it at all. By then, I'm usually already asleep. You can guess what happens the next morning. They can't get going until late afternoon, because the hotel only had a trickle charger that got turned off overnight, and some other EV guy was hogging the spot until 10am. After all that, my EV friends just borrow the wife's gasoline minivan for the next trip. I can't blame them.

But hey, if you're just getting groceries in town, then EV is awesome. I once saw a Tesla beat a Lamborghini by 0.3 seconds out of the Whole Foods parking lot. I don't think anyone really noticed though. They were all checking out the Lambo.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by murderspice

Thats actually quite scathing; and completely deserved. It looks like only the koreans and tesla are close to what consumers like in the EV market. As long as musk stays away, i hope we can see them build upon it. I was, at one time, a never-hyundaier; now i catch myself looking at their N cars

Wow. I like Harrys reviews I find him to be pretty fair and not biased. The interesting take away is the 10% loss of KWH during charging. So you're losing 10% which might not sound like much but as electricity prices inevitably go up that will add up.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Wow. I like Harrys reviews I find him to be pretty fair and not biased. The interesting take away is the 10% loss of KWH during charging. So you're losing 10% which might not sound like much but as electricity prices inevitably go up that will add up.

10% here, 10% there, 10% more and before you know it you're standing by the side of the road waiting for the tow truck.

[Car-Addicted]

Electricity prices are soaring: It’s time to hold the ‘energy transition’ accountable
Electricity prices in the United States are skyrocketing, with all-sectors electricity rates reaching new all-time highs in 2022 and 2023, but wind and solar advocates like to pretend that these energy sources are not responsible for the rising electricity costs paid by American families and businesses.
As wind and solar energy penetration levels began to rise above 5 percent, California electricity prices began skyrocketing, erasing nearly a decade of price normalization with the US average. In 2022, with wind and solar generation levels above 25 percent, the average electricity price in California was 81 percent higher than the national average, compared to a low of 28 percent in 2008 when the Golden State’s generation mix only had 3 percent wind and solar. 
The rate cases examined clearly label so-called “energy transition” investments as major drivers of rising electricity costs, and as long as we continue to play stupid games with our electric grid, we will continue to win stupid prizes.
https://stephenheins.substack.com/p/...re-soaring-its

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Artificial ICE sounds for EV people is perfect metaphor for buying a EV to save the planet by open pit mining of battery components and environmental damaging mineral processing
Always reminds me of the The old baseball cards on the spokes trick.

The kid keeps a clean ride I have to say.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Electricity prices are soaring: It’s time to hold the ‘energy transition’ accountable
Electricity prices in the United States are skyrocketing, with all-sectors electricity rates reaching new all-time highs in 2022 and 2023, but wind and solar advocates like to pretend that these energy sources are not responsible for the rising electricity costs paid by American families and businesses.
As wind and solar energy penetration levels began to rise above 5 percent, California electricity prices began skyrocketing, erasing nearly a decade of price normalization with the US average. In 2022, with wind and solar generation levels above 25 percent, the average electricity price in California was 81 percent higher than the national average, compared to a low of 28 percent in 2008 when the Golden State’s generation mix only had 3 percent wind and solar. 
The rate cases examined clearly label so-called “energy transition” investments as major drivers of rising electricity costs, and as long as we continue to play stupid games with our electric grid, we will continue to win stupid prizes.
https://stephenheins.substack.com/p/...re-soaring-its

No guesswork here, Ontario about 15 years ago signed the Green Energy Act and contracts with Samsung for Wind power, $7B. Ontario now has among the highest electricity prices in NA. In fact hydro bills when up so high and there was so much outrage that the provincial government subsidizes $2B a year to keep electricity bills down.

I have heard the cost to transition to sufficient production and deliver infrastructure that Canada and rate payers will be on the hook for about $2Trillion. I can only imagine how expensive it will be to plug in your EV, turn on your heat pump or your lights for that matter.

This doesn't end well and nobody can convince me otherwise, if there was another side to this equation you'd hear politicians talking about it.

[Car-Addicted]

Opinion | The EV Backlash Builds
1/20/2024 The Wall Street Journal
The Bozo Administration keeps throwing around billions in subsidies for electric vehicles, and the press corps keeps hailing them, but consumers don’t seem to want them. The evidence is building that this green industrial policy is a bust.
A Consumer Reports survey in November found that new EVs have 79% more problems than internal-combustion cars.
“What matters most to consumers remains the same: finding safe, reliable cars,” Consumer Reports CEO Marta Tellado said. People want safe, reliable cars—who would have thought?
This week the Environmental Protection Agency sent its final rule on auto greenhouse emission standards to the Bozo for review. This back-door EV mandate will punish Ford and other auto makers if they respond to consumer demand by selling more gas-powered cars. It will also compel the companies to roll out EVs before technological and engineering kinks are worked out. This is a recipe for making EVs less popular, not more.

Amid the private jet-set at Davos this week, Bozo climate czar John Kerry attributed consumer resistance to EVs to “disinformation.” That’s hilarious. The automobile press couldn’t be more in the tank for EVs.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...356707177&ei=5

Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.
Joseph Goebbels

I really doubt anyone has not purchased a EV due to some fire video on YouTube but they should have.
I really doubt the lack of "Main Street Media" attention to the environmental impact of battery material mining and processing kept someone from buying a EV but it should have.
I really do think that range anxiety and depreciation issues are one of the only things that keep some folks from buying a EV.
I would like to think that when this green deception is over there will be a reckoning and the folks will understand how many trillions in debt their children will be on the hook for while the environment goes about its business regardless of man's foolish thoughts that it can change it. I would like to think, but sadly I know better. We are no longer the country that revolted against British rule, we are the country that said please give me another untested drug because some unelected bureaucrats said so. This type behavior will be America's epitaph.

[M5Rick]

Over here the rulers are in real trouble not only with their crumbling zero carbon policies wasting billions of hard earned tax payers money being squandered and the tide is turning, more and more opposition to it with news outlets constantly now challenging the madness of their policies.