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      05-30-2022, 08:46 AM   #6051
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Speaking of 9mm……


….As many here know, I build AR's for many of my friends and co-workers. I have built a zillion .223/5.56/300 BLK AR's, but this is the first AR9 I've built. It turned out well based on the specs/parts list he provided. For this particular build he already had a lower designed for .223/5.56/300 BLK, so I had to use the Stern Defense adapter to convert it for 9mm use. I also removed the weight from the 9mm BCG so the Law Tactical folder could be used.

I feel tempted to build an AR9 now….
You could even just build an AR9 upper and buy the Stern Defense adapter, then put it on an AR you already own. It would take all of 5-10 mins to convert one of your current AR's to 9mm.
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      05-30-2022, 09:13 AM   #6052
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I’m going AR shopping today, it just feels like the right thing to do.
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      05-30-2022, 09:48 AM   #6053
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Speaking of AR-9’s, would love a Noveske N9 because it uses & looks rad with the straight Colt mags.
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      05-30-2022, 10:47 AM   #6054
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Speaking of AR-9's, would love a Noveske N9 because it uses & looks rad with the straight Colt mags.
Any pics? I've never seen one. I like Noveske products though. I've put the Flaming Pig on a few builds.
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Any pics? I've never seen one. I like Noveske products though. I've put the Flaming Pig on a few builds.

Looks pretty slick with the Colt mags I think.

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      05-30-2022, 11:48 AM   #6056
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Any pics? I've never seen one. I like Noveske products though. I've put the Flaming Pig on a few builds.

Looks pretty slick with the Colt mags I think.

[IMG]https://noveske.com/wp-content/uploa...ght-scaled.jpg[/IMG]
I dig it. I love uppers with no forward assist. Slick-sides are my fave!!!
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      05-30-2022, 11:52 AM   #6057
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No I don't get the point at all, A readily available gun is the problem, I don't know why there is so much denial - to make an effective bomb is much harder to do, and I very much doubt a knife or sword would have killed anywhere near so many and takes fitness and close proximity.

Would you change your mind if one of the children was yours ?
That's the "danger" of living in a FREE society where we are CITIZENS and (theoretically) rule ourselves with inalienable, inherent rights and not SUBJECTS of a monarchy that delegates our privileges.

Have you read our Constitution? Bill of RIGHTS (which are really restrictions on our "elected" officials)? Federalist Papers? We even have the right, and duty, to overthrow our own government when it becomes tyrannical. Can't do that without the means, i.e. firearms.
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      05-30-2022, 12:35 PM   #6058
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Speaking of 9mm……


….As many here know, I build AR's for many of my friends and co-workers. I have built a zillion .223/5.56/300 BLK AR's, but this is the first AR9 I've built. It turned out well based on the specs/parts list he provided. For this particular build he already had a lower designed for .223/5.56/300 BLK, so I had to use the Stern Defense adapter to convert it for 9mm use. I also removed the weight from the 9mm BCG so the Law Tactical folder could be used.
Instead of Stern adapter you could go with Endomags. I recently built 2 AR9's and one of them has ar15 lower using Endomags. Ive put lots of rounds through it and not one of them jammed.
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No I don't get the point at all, A readily available gun is the problem, I don't know why there is so much denial - to make an effective bomb is much harder to do, and I very much doubt a knife or sword would have killed anywhere near so many and takes fitness and close proximity.

Would you change your mind if one of the children was yours ?
That's the "danger" of living in a FREE society where we are CITIZENS and (theoretically) rule ourselves with inalienable, inherent rights and not SUBJECTS of a monarchy that delegates our privileges.

Have you read our Constitution? Bill of RIGHTS (which are really restrictions on our "elected" officials)? Federalist Papers? We even have the right, and duty, to overthrow our own government when it becomes tyrannical. Can't do that without the means, i.e. firearms.
Preach!!!
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      05-30-2022, 02:38 PM   #6060
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Why would it violate any laws? They purchase their stripped lower receiver(s) legally at an FFL (…and wait the 10-day period or get a letter from their respective Captain(s) to negate the waiting period) and give them to me to build the actual rifle. There's no violation of law. It's no different than a gun shop employee building the gun for you. I can build them a higher quality product for less than a gun shop will charge.
Sorry, I wasn't clear.

I was referring to the features. Doesn't CA have a bunch of restrictions on which features ARs can have? Or does that not apply in this case?
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      05-30-2022, 03:45 PM   #6061
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Why would it violate any laws? They purchase their stripped lower receiver(s) legally at an FFL (…and wait the 10-day period or get a letter from their respective Captain(s) to negate the waiting period) and give them to me to build the actual rifle. There's no violation of law. It's no different than a gun shop employee building the gun for you. I can build them a higher quality product for less than a gun shop will charge.
Sorry, I wasn't clear.

I was referring to the features. Doesn't CA have a bunch of restrictions on which features ARs can have? Or does that not apply in this case?
There is some variance between registered AR-format pistols and AR rifles. The break action to remove a mag is the important thing.
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      05-30-2022, 05:05 PM   #6062
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Love AR9s. We had some MP5s and UMPs when I first started but have since sold them all and switched to rifles.

A long time ago I built a PSA AR-9 with Colt mags and it was okay then I went and got a SIG MPX pistol


Now I'm using a CMMG Banshee SBR with Glock mags.
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You could even just build an AR9 upper and buy the Stern Defense adapter, then put it on an AR you already own. It would take all of 5-10 mins to convert one of your current AR's to 9mm.
Looking into all that - but a dedicated AR-9 pistol that's light(er) would be nice.
Currently have one with a 223 Wylde heavy barrel - and that thing is heavy to wield. Side charger though - would prefer an ambi and maybe stick in a forward assist...though I could live without it.
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Love AR9s. We had some MP5s and UMPs when I first started but have since sold them all and switched to rifles.

A long time ago I built a PSA AR-9 with Colt mags and it was okay then I went and got a SIG MPX pistol
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/XJNzVc36/IMG-3844.jpg[/img]

Now I'm using a CMMG Banshee SBR with Glock mags.
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/PJFx3bpk/3-C099...3-FFA0-AC6.jpg[/img]
Ooooo I love that gray rifle.
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I am so glad I don't live in Canada.
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      05-31-2022, 01:12 AM   #6066
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I am so glad I don't live in Canada.
Same here! Tyrannical governments need to be curtailed.
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Same here! Tyrannical governments need to be curtailed.
How does that saying go? “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.”

Just the latest disgrace by the current federal government in Canada:
- it's incredibly difficult to legally get a handgun license in Canada to begin with - probably the most vetted people
- It's low-hanging 'omg handguns are scary - gangs use handguns downtown' opportunistic capitalizing without actually doing anything about the real issues (immigration, illegal smuggled guns, gangs, justice system being soft on crime, etc)

While there have been a couple of cases of guns being stolen, I do not see this new overreach in fixing any of the inherent issues or making the streets safer.

!@$% *&^$
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For those who would like to curtail or eliminate the second amendment, what are you offering in return? I’m not prepared to give up anything without appropriate compensation.

Do you have another right to insert into the bill of rights which will still (or better) provide a check on government?

How about improving the right to privacy (government and corporate data mining/holding)?

How about strengthening property rights: no trespassing and no search?

Throw out something, don’t just try to take away our rights.
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What fire options? All burst or single?
They are all semi-auto. No mods to the FCG or triggers
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No I don't get the point at all, A readily available gun is the problem, I don't know why there is so much denial - to make an effective bomb is much harder to do, and I very much doubt a knife or sword would have killed anywhere near so many and takes fitness and close proximity.

Would you change your mind if one of the children was yours ?
Guns are not the issue. It starts with fixing our mental health system in the US
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No I don't get the point at all, A readily available gun is the problem, I don't know why there is so much denial - to make an effective bomb is much harder to do, and I very much doubt a knife or sword would have killed anywhere near so many and takes fitness and close proximity.

Would you change your mind if one of the children was yours ?
Just to be fair - would you change your mind if your children were killed in front of you because you lacked the means to defend against a home invasion?

These kind of personalizing the issue are lame. Big picture. That has to be the deciding factor for law. Not emotion.
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Watch out folks or the Mods will shut this thread down for Politics. That's exactly what the hater Trolls want. No need to try to educate them - and besides many of them live in countries without a bill of rights.

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