Future BMW model information

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

BMW should just go for the grand salami and make it the M250i.

Originally Posted by SemtexGT

Really intrigued by the M245i name

In the UK there is the M135i (again). Like the US M235i this is the B48 2L 306HP X drive car. F40 for 1 series F44 for 2 series Gran Coupe.

Getting to my point now in the UK reviews lots of people have referred to the M135i not being the direct replacement for the M140i outgoing F20z this was the B58.

Thus...there is room in the lineup for a M140i we thought but no, perhaps it is the M145i. Will no doubt be a version of the B47 with hybrid help taking it nearer 400Hp. Still transverse mounting etc as the chassis defines this.

Hope that all made sense.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by JustChris

In the UK there is the M135i (again). Like the US M235i this is the B48 2L 306HP X drive car. F40 for 1 series F44 for 2 series Gran Coupe.

Getting to my point now in the UK reviews lots of people have referred to the M135i not being the direct replacement for the M140i outgoing F20z this was the B58.

Thus...there is room in the lineup for a M140i we thought but no, perhaps it is the M145i. Will no doubt be a version of the B47 with hybrid help taking it nearer 400Hp. Still transverse mounting etc as the chassis defines this.

Hope that all made sense.

I was going for the money shot.

M255i ⁉️

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

I was going for the money shot.

M255i ⁉️

1.5 3Cyl Turbo, Supercharger, Hybrid. PHEV BEV

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

BMW should just go for the grand salami and make it the M250i.

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the *50i badge land on the B58 some day when the N68 (presumed name of the next iteration of the V8) is here and moves on to the *55i badge. Or, if we make the assumption the I6's lifespan will go beyond the V8's (which seems reasonably likely) I suppose the sky is the limit in numbering for the I6.

After all, in decades past, both the 30i and 40i monikers originated on V8 models (of 3L and 4L displacement, fittingly). And the 50i nameplate was reserved for the V12.

Originally Posted by JustChris

In the UK there is the M135i (again). Like the US M235i this is the B48 2L 306HP X drive car. F40 for 1 series F44 for 2 series Gran Coupe.

Right, but the M245i badge is being associated here with the next generation G42 4 Series coupe which will be a CLAR-based offering. So we are most probably talking about a new iteration of the B58.

Don't expect any FAAR product above M*35i anytime soon.

Thus...there is room in the lineup for a M140i we thought but no, perhaps it is the M145i. Will no doubt be a version of the B47 with hybrid help taking it nearer 400Hp. Still transverse mounting etc as the chassis defines this.

Hope that all made sense.

I don't disagree we'll see performance FAAR-based PHEV vehicles sometime this decade. However, I'd expect those to be branded M*35e or perhaps M*40e.

[BimmerMat135]

I just hope the M245i will be available with a manual transmission.

[Yk11]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

I don't disagree we'll see performance FAAR-based PHEV vehicles sometime this decade. However, I'd expect those to be branded M*35e or perhaps M*40e.

Well, I wouldn't expect any of this as long as the current FAAR platform is used, as it has been developed and engineered for a max power output of ~300hp.

This is probably one reason why the F40/F44 lifecycle could be shortened as ynguldyn wrote in his November 2019 update. Maybe BMW made a mistake here by making the FAAR platform this cost-efficient. Thinking about AMG or the new Golf R with an expected 333hp

[bobloblaw]

"Do you know why I'm pulling you over sir?"

"*me explaining OEM Dynamic Glass Tinting™ by Continental AG*"

"aite here's a ticket for no front plate then"

*cries in California*

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by bobloblaw

"Do you know why I'm pulling you over sir?"

"*me explaining OEM Dynamic Glass Tinting™ by Continental AG*"

"aite here's a ticket for no front plate then"

*cries in California*

Great place to visit

🦗

[A6bullet]

Originally Posted by am3r1ka

Wait till the iX8M45e comes

Not long enough, not enough prestige.

iX8M45e xDrive First Edition pure

[Micke_B]

So accordingly to my local (eu/Sweden) dealer. The M2, all versions, will not being produced after 2020/09? Not 2021/06 as stated in this thread. Can anyone verify this?

[Nahlem]

Originally Posted by A6bullet

Not long enough, not enough prestige.

iX8M45e xDrive First Edition pure

THIS! this is the reason for the option badge delete!........

[James_E36]

Originally Posted by Beefcake

Oh wauw, are they really bringing out a 520e?
What's the purpose if that given the fact that the 530e is already 4-cilinder?

What are the specs of the 520e then?

In the UK they have just announced the G20/G21 318i will use a lower powered version of the B48 (154hp) rather than the B38.
It could be possible this is what we will see in the 520e as the electric motor would boost the power to circa 200

[Weiman]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Right but the M245i badge is being associated here with the next generation G42 *4 Series coupe which will be a CLAR based offering.

*2 Series coupe!

[Jerich0]

Wonder if the G42 M245i or M240i will be RWD or Xdrive...

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by sh11

Well, I wouldn't expect any of this as long as the current FAAR platform is used, as it has been developed and engineered for a max power output of ~300hp.

I'm pretty skeptical of some line-in-the-sand cutoff at ~300hp. If the market calls for a performance PHEV model making a little more than 300hp, I'm sure there's a reasonable way to achieve that with the current generation vehicles.

Based on what I've read, the impetus for the new platform is lower costs and better packaging for electric models.

Originally Posted by Jerich0

Wonder if the G42 M245i or M240i will be RWD or Xdrive...

I'd guess the answer is "yes". In other words, both will be available. As long as they are still making RWD M*40i 3 Series and 4 Series models (and they are), I don't see why they wouldn't do the same for the 2 Series Coupe. Now, whether the RWD model is available in all regions is a separate question. For example, the RWD M340i sedan isn't available in many countries, and I'd guess the same will hold for the upcoming RWD M440i coupe and convertible.

[themnmd]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

I just hope the M245i will be available with a manual transmission.

I suspect that a rwd will be a 6 speed and awd with the ZF8

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by themnmd

I suspect that a rwd will be a 6 speed and awd with the ZF8

Once the F2x and F3x end, the B58 + 6MT is almost surely into the history books.

S58 + 6MT is what's left. Once that's gone, it's all done.

[themnmd]

I had the current generation M235 (2014), loved it. Replaced it with M340 xdrive which is amazing. New generation M235/240 with same engine will be a beast

[MadSpirit]

Please explain about SOP, Im going to order G05. March SOP means from beginning of the month? Or could it be any date during March? Thanks!

[jp1984]

Any one around Cambridge MA see what looked like a fully camo'd / red 3 series cruising around today?

I couldn't grab a very good pic, but I have no idea why they would bother with Camo on a 3 series now after it just came out.

[matbl]

ynguldyn , do you still have G31 LCI 530e as production start in July?

[Tuxedo]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Once the F2x and F3x end, the B58 + 6MT is almost surely into the history books.

S58 + 6MT is what's left. Once that's gone, it's all done.

dies like the dodo dodo bird