Trying to supe up an older car

[NickyC]

Just enjoy it for what it is. Speed gets boring and if you want to go fast get something else hot out of the box.

[pbonsalb]

I have never gotten bored of speed. I have gotten used to a certain amount of power and wanted more. So I keep modding.

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by Canibot

I do love the car but everyone has told me it's not worth even touching.

It's not, and I say this as an E65 owner. Enjoy the car for what it is, focus on school.

[pbonsalb]

And get the 323i running again so you can drive when the 750i breaks. The 750i will likely be expensive to fix so the second car gives you time to try to fix yourself or time to shop around for a good independent mechanic.

[Llarry]

I think you've picked the wrong car to soup up. You may need to concentrate on keeping your 7er in good repair -- that can be a challenge for a very complex 18-year-old-car.

[DrVenture]

On a side note: "Soup-up" is thought to have originated with a slang for injecting drugs (soup) into a race horse.

[pbonsalb]

I injected nitrous into a Volvo 242 Turbo, and have injected methanol into BMW E36 M3, E90 M3 and F90 M5.

[cooolone2]

Cheap/Fast/Reliable

Place your finger over the way you want your car to be, and the rest will reveal itself because you can only have one of the three!

You want FAST, well then, it won't be Cheap or Reliable!

Want CHEAP, it won't be Fast or Reliable!

Want RELIABLE, then it won't be Fast or Cheap!

Lol...

Bottom line is if you want to "Supe" up a vehicle, you gotta pay to play!

Those are the simple RULES of modding a car, based upon decades of experience and observation amongst many friends who've traveled the path. If you chase #'s be prepared to spend spend spend... If you design a plan of what you want going in, and stick to it, that would be great! It will be hard because "Shipwrights" disease easily sets in, lol...

Good Luck!

[DrVenture]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

I injected nitrous into a Volvo 242 Turbo, and have injected methanol into BMW E36 M3, E90 M3 and F90 M5.

Making it still relevant!

[Canibot]

Originally Posted by DanG

I guess the real question is why you need more power? You have a car that had plenty of power in its time. 360hp is no joke. It is a luxury sedan not a drag racer. Just enjoy it for what it is. Intake, exhaust, etc adds very little hp for significant dollars. Not worth it in my opinion. One thing you could look at is newer tires.

I'm probably going to just keep the car as it is. The only reason that I wanted to make it faster is to make the car slide, as in its current condition its comparable to the dodge challenger R/T of the BMW world. Any thoughts on a way to make the car more unstable or is there nothing I can do to make it slide besides ice.

[DanG]

Originally Posted by Canibot

I'm probably going to just keep the car as it is. The only reason that I wanted to make it faster is to make the car slide, as in its current condition its comparable to the dodge challenger R/T of the BMW world. Any thoughts on a way to make the car more unstable or is there nothing I can do to make it slide besides ice.

Turn off traction control.

[pbonsalb]

What alignment settings do drifters use? 0 degrees negative camber? Closer to 0 toe?

[Canibot]

Originally Posted by DanG

Turn off traction control.

Bro I do that and put my car in sport mode and it still doesn't slide. I'm I js mentally slow or is this car built to not drift?

[pbonsalb]

4500 lb cars with 360 crank hp and auto trans are not great drifters. You may need to hold down traction control for 5 seconds to fully defeat it but this depends on the model and may or may not work for your car.

[Canibot]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

4500 lb cars with 360 crank hp and auto trans are not great drifters. You may need to hold down traction control for 5 seconds to fully defeat it but this depends on the model and may or may not work for your car.

I know how to turn off dsc and it slightly helps but, I have figured out the formula for drifting however, balding rear tires. Also how much do you think a manual swap would cost?

Purely hypothetical, I wouldn't dare attempt to manual swap that car before Id sell it for a better one.

[pbonsalb]

V8 bellhousing transmission, which isn’t as common so it costs more, pedal assembly, flywheel and clutch, trans brace and mounts, shifter assembly and console surround, and maybe a differential with the right gearing. Ideally, you buy a wreck with all the parts since it is challenging to accumulate them piece by piece. If you can’t DIY, labor is probably a couple of days. If you could DIY, knew exactly what you needed and shopped patiently and carefully, maybe you could do it for as little as $3k. If not, probably closer to $10k.

Sell your cars and buy one that already is close to what you want. There were 6 speed manual 550i V8s. The 2011 128i 6 speed is the last of the naturally aspirated inline 6 manual trans cars. I don’t really know much about drifting — I have done a little drag racing, a little track and been on a skid pad a couple of times. The drifters I have had some contact with use turbo E36, but not convertibles because the chassis are not as strong.

[Leucosticte]

Originally Posted by Canibot

I know how to turn off dsc and it slightly helps but, I have figured out the formula for drifting however, balding rear tires. Also how much do you think a manual swap would cost?

Purely hypothetical, I wouldn't dare attempt to manual swap that car before Id sell it for a better one.

I would say its close to impossible considering the e65 never came with a manual from the factory. Yes you could spend big money fabbing custom components but if you want to drift you should really get another car.

[pbonsalb]

That is a good point. Some custom work required - shifter console, driveshaft modified for length, possibly some custom mounting of pedal assembly. Not something I would do unless the car has sentimental value well in excess of the value of the car.

[Canibot]

Originally Posted by Leucosticte

I would say its close to impossible considering the e65 never came with a manual from the factory. Yes you could spend big money fabbing custom components but if you want to drift you should really get another car.

Yea I've kind of come to the conclusion that I wont be able to drift the car like Id hope to, but imp still gonna turbo it if I still have the car in 4 years.

[Canibot]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

That is a good point. Some custom work required - shifter console, driveshaft modified for length, possibly some custom mounting of pedal assembly. Not something I would do unless the car has sentimental value well in excess of the value of the car.

The car does have value to me but not 30k dollars worth of work value for a transmission swap. Ima keep the car as is with a widebody kit and we finna call it a day.

As a college student im not going to have the money to afford a new project car so im just gonna fix this one and daily it.

[pbonsalb]

The problem is you will get hit with expensive repairs trying to keep this complex old car on the road. Not a good choice for a kid in college. I doubt you will ever get to the point where you have fun with it. And turbocharging it is a really expensive and stupid idea — tuning is required that I don’t think is available, no kits exist, the engine can’t handle it, and the trans can’t handle it. For $25k you can buy an F10 M5, an even more complex car that is also expensive to maintain, but it is newer and twin turbo from the factory.

Probably something like an E46 330i or E82 128i is a better choice for a student on a budget. I’d prefer an E46 M3 or E82 135i, but they cost more and are much more expensive to maintain.

[Canibot]

So how do I make this car do a burnout