BMW 1 Series Sedan Launches in China

ron_jeremy · 02-27-2017, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IndotagSwizz

of course they get full led taillights from the start, while we suckers in US always have to wait till the LCI to get all the cool stuff...smh

All the cool stuff?
UKL platform is basically a Mini, a FWD platform with the engine across and the Aisin transmission.
All the above, is sub par next to the usual BMW treats, but you have your eyes set on the important stuff, LED taillights...

I guess with the next 1 series coming soon, the smaller 1 series sedan will be on all markets.

pz619 · 02-27-2017, 03:59 PM

Ugh. Leave that mutant FWD BMW in Asia.

Zirenz2006 · 02-27-2017, 05:08 PM

The front isn't bad at all. That shifter is just horrible though. I know this car can't have the ZF transmission and electric shifter but does it need to be so tall? It just looks ridiculous.

vladberca · 02-27-2017, 05:23 PM

I can't see this car being sold outside China 😞
If they want a small refined little sedan, a RWD 2 series GC is the way to go!

IndotagSwizz · 02-27-2017, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ron_jeremy

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Originally Posted by IndotagSwizz

of course they get full led taillights from the start, while we suckers in US always have to wait till the LCI to get all the cool stuff...smh

All the cool stuff?
UKL platform is basically a Mini, a FWD platform with the engine across and the Aisin transmission.
All the above, is sub par next to the usual BMW treats, but you have your eyes set on the important stuff, LED taillights...

I guess with the next 1 series coming soon, the smaller 1 series sedan will be on all markets.

I said all the cool stuff and you are referring to fwd and platform

: that's def not the cool stuff lol

M47 · 02-27-2017, 05:56 PM

So this is basically a sedan 2er?

3M TAPE · 02-27-2017, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by IS3andME

It's already in the US, it's called the Volvo S60.

You have a point there, Volvo is the new BMW.

wdeerfield · 02-27-2017, 06:25 PM

give it to me with xdrive and msport and its the nice replacement for my gone but not forgotten e46.

Gamb1t · 02-27-2017, 06:37 PM

I thought the original 1er hatchback was sensational. Then we got the 1er coupe which I find ugly. But it was fun!
With some skepticism I began reading this article. It's exactly really pretty is it? But it might be fun like the old 1er..... be open minded and all that.

Then they lost me at "...by means of power transmission to the front wheels."

That's what happens when you serve too many TsingTao at Oktoberfest

ObsidianX · 02-27-2017, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by M47

So this is basically a sedan 2er?

Not exactly. It is a UKL platform like the new FWD X1. The existing 2 series are RWD or biased-RWD for the xDrive. Two completely different platforms.

deadlyrhythm · 02-27-2017, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 3M TAPE

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Originally Posted by IS3andME

It's already in the US, it's called the Volvo S60.

You have a point there, Volvo is the new BMW.

Exactly what I came to say

Has some similar lines to a Kia or Mazda

Zeroblade · 02-27-2017, 08:14 PM

If rear seat needs to have the roof cut out like it does, I don't ever want to be in this car.

Reminds me how terrible the Merc CLA is

ORIGIN M. · 02-27-2017, 08:43 PM

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E30M3Brill · 02-27-2017, 08:57 PM

Great - so we are building VW Jettas now!!!

AWSB328iM · 02-27-2017, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

I feel like 0 to 100 in 6.8s isn't great for a small car with 231hp. I mean it doesn't have to be a speed demon, but I was figuring something closer to 6s like the now-retired F30 325i was able to achieve.

6.8 isn't that bad at all.

hmm... I wonder what the E36 M3 did...

it had 240 hp.... 0-100 in around 6.2-6.3 sound right ? This of course is no M car..

wondering why there are not ACTUAL vehicle photos?

E36 M3 240hp was about 6 seconds 0-100 km/h. 190hp 328is Coupe was 6.2-6.5 I believe. Both cars depending on options weighed 3100-3200lbs.

Teutonic · 02-27-2017, 11:35 PM

Not going to sell. Chinese need an Li version.

GeorgeA · 02-28-2017, 02:53 AM

What is all that Chinese badging? Can anyone translate?

Matski · 02-28-2017, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ObsidianX

Not exactly. It is a UKL platform like the new FWD X1. The existing 2 series are RWD or biased-RWD for the xDrive. Two completely different platforms.

You're forgetting...

UKL Based 2 series...

So to describe this car as a 2-er sedan more accurate than calling it a 1-er... IMHO.

Matski · 02-28-2017, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeA

What is all that Chinese badging? Can anyone translate?

It says Brilliance BMW, the name of the Chinese joint venture between Brilliance Automotive and BMW.

GeorgeA · 02-28-2017, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Matski

It says Brilliance BMW, the name of the Chinese joint venture between Brilliance Automotive and BMW.

Hm, so Brilliance was involved in the engineering of this car??

Weiman · 02-28-2017, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tracus

Not going to sell. Chinese need an Li version.

I'm sure BMW are aware of the Chinese market. Rear legroom looks pretty impressive in the pictures.. headroom perhaps not so much.

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Originally Posted by GeorgeA

Hm, so Brilliance was involved in the engineering of this car??

Probably to some extent:
"The BMW 1 Series Sedan was developed at BMW headquarters in Munich with the support of Chinese engineers."

Matski · 02-28-2017, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeA

Hm, so Brilliance was involved in the engineering of this car??

I doubt it. IMO all the good stuff about BBA comes from BMW, Brilliance are there because BMW are required to partner up with a Chinese company, and that's pretty much it.

Of course Chinese engineers might have a better idea what the Chinese market wants, so I'd imagine the BMW engineers did take their advice on what the product should be, but probably not on how to achieve it.

I'm thinking cars from Zinoro have much more development input from Brilliance, who use the X1 simply as a base.

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