All-new 2023 Nissan Z makes world debut

AlpineBoost · 08-18-2021, 01:25 AM

I'm holding off until there's real info on a Nismo model, but I can't wait to pick one of these up in a year or so.

Crimson92 · 08-18-2021, 01:31 AM

Love it.

supra93 · 08-18-2021, 02:32 AM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...omparison.428/

R N M · 08-18-2021, 03:28 AM

Really dig the styling on this new Z and love the Blue on Blue combo. Looking forward to the Nismo version.

Looking to buy this or new GR86 in next year or 2 to get back a manual car in the fleet.

M-technik-3 · 08-18-2021, 05:05 AM

I can dig it but it alone will not save NIssan.

ntg44 · 08-18-2021, 05:57 AM

I'm a fan. This is a winner for me. My only major gripe is the fact that they took the time and design effort to use one of the 3 center stack gauges for turbo speed. Really? Over something like oil temp? Useless. I guess it's in the digital cluster, but still.

But man, wish I was in the market for something like this. Good time to be a shopper in the 45-50k range. I loved my HR 350z when I had it, and would gladly add this to my garage as a keeper if I had the space for it. Something tells me the fact that they simply called it the "Z" means this is the swan song for the model. So far, to me it's looking like an worthy execution of a final generation model.

baege · 08-18-2021, 07:06 AM

it doesn't look quite as good as the proto (never does!

)

the rear quarter panel treatment on the production model is not quite as clean and flowing as the proto...

I also don't like the little rear spoiler, hopefully there is a rear spoiler delete option

but overall a much better looking car than the supra and it comes in a manual!

kyriian · 08-18-2021, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by M-technik-3

I can dig it but it alone will not save NIssan.

Truth, but it does get people talking about the brand, I mean we are talking about it, and likely entice people to the showrooms again.

wtwo3 · 08-18-2021, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by M-technik-3

I can dig it but it alone will not save NIssan.

They're positioning it as a "halo car" for Nissan. So it gets people's attention, gets people interested in Nissan as a brand, and there's a sense of "trickle down" into Nissan's other models.

heavyD^2 · 08-18-2021, 08:44 AM

Looks much better in the blue color. I realize they could only do so much with the interior but it does keep a lot of dated cues unfortunately. I would probably be more excited if I didn't dislike the 370Z so much. I can't remember a car that ever disappointed me as much after a test drive. I couldn't get out of the dealership fast enough after handing the keys back to the salesman.

wtwo3 · 08-18-2021, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by heavyD^2

Looks much better in the blue color. I realize they could only do so much with the interior but it does keep a lot of dated cues unfortunately. I would probably be more excited if I didn't dislike the 370Z so much. I can't remember a car that ever disappointed me as much after a test drive. I couldn't get out of the dealership fast enough after handing the keys back to the salesman.

Those test drives are always the most awkward, where the car is underwhelming or just plain bad... Because the sales person is always so enthusiastic about the car and you have to sit there acting like you're enjoying it too. And I don't know about you, but I'm terrible at faking emotion and have a bad habit of being blunt.

heavyD^2 · 08-18-2021, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wtwo3

Those test drives are always the most awkward, where the car is underwhelming or just plain bad... Because the sales person is always so enthusiastic about the car and you have to sit there acting like you're enjoying it too. And I don't know about you, but I'm terrible at faking emotion and have a bad habit of being blunt.

I’m the opposite. Try to be polite telling them I like it, going along with the process, ending with me telling them I will have to sleep on it. I don’t like to waste salespersons time so rather than ghost them after, I will usually tell them I am going in a different direction.

MmmmmM2 · 08-18-2021, 12:16 PM

I think Nissan did a great job on this one!

wtwo3 · 08-18-2021, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by heavyD^2

I’m the opposite. Try to be polite telling them I like it, going along with the process, ending with me telling them I will have to sleep on it. I don’t like to waste salespersons time so rather than ghost them after, I will usually tell them I am going in a different direction.

Oh I'm polite.... but I have a REALLY hard time telling them I like it in a convincing way when I don't actually like it. This is exacerbated when the sales person is especially enthusiastic.

jmack · 08-18-2021, 12:24 PM

I like it a lot, but not sure I would take it over a Mustang GT or Camaro SS. Seems like you get a lot more car for the money with those at the $40k price point.

370z Nismo runs a 3:12 at VIR, while the Ecoboost Mustang PP and Camaro V6 1LE both run a 3:04. A 50hp boost with the 400z should close the gap on the non-V8 cars, but I don't see how it will be competitive with the V8s when they have 80+ HP on it.

AlpineBoost · 08-18-2021, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by heavyD^2

Looks much better in the blue color. I realize they could only do so much with the interior but it does keep a lot of dated cues unfortunately. I would probably be more excited if I didn't dislike the 370Z so much. I can't remember a car that ever disappointed me as much after a test drive. I couldn't get out of the dealership fast enough after handing the keys back to the salesman.

What did you end up buying instead of the Z, or was it just a test drive for the sake of it?

heavyD^2 · 08-18-2021, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AlpineBoost

What did you end up buying instead of the Z, or was it just a test drive for the sake of it?

I was getting out of a lemon Mustang GT at the time and ended up settling on a Subaru WRX STI. This was in 2013 but I don’t think the 370Z changed a lot over the course of its life span. The transmission and ride of the STI was far superior and the transmission was key because one of the major issues with my Mustang was the junk manual transmission and the feel of the 370Z tranny gave me MT82 vibes.

supra93 · 08-18-2021, 02:41 PM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...es-square.437/

supra93 · 08-19-2021, 12:27 AM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...ite-pearl.438/

supra93 · 08-19-2021, 02:54 PM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...os-garage.452/

supra93 · 08-19-2021, 07:04 PM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...me-thread.454/

supra93 · 08-20-2021, 12:02 AM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...supra-was.456/

08-18-2021, 01:25 AM	#23
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ntg44 Colonel 2894 Rep 2,146 Posts Drives: R8 4.2 Spyder Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Chicago iTrader: (3)	I'm a fan. This is a winner for me. My only major gripe is the fact that they took the time and design effort to use one of the 3 center stack gauges for turbo speed. Really? Over something like oil temp? Useless. I guess it's in the digital cluster, but still. But man, wish I was in the market for something like this. Good time to be a shopper in the 45-50k range. I loved my HR 350z when I had it, and would gladly add this to my garage as a keeper if I had the space for it. Something tells me the fact that they simply called it the "Z" means this is the swan song for the model. So far, to me it's looking like an worthy execution of a final generation model. __________________ YT: ntg44 Last edited by ntg44; 08-18-2021 at 06:05 AM..
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heavyD^2 Colonel 3726 Rep 2,989 Posts Drives: X3M Competition Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Too close to Santa iTrader: (0)	Looks much better in the blue color. I realize they could only do so much with the interior but it does keep a lot of dated cues unfortunately. I would probably be more excited if I didn't dislike the 370Z so much. I can't remember a car that ever disappointed me as much after a test drive. I couldn't get out of the dealership fast enough after handing the keys back to the salesman.
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