BMW Garage | BMW Meets | Register | Today's Posts | Search |
|
Post Reply |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
01-14-2022, 06:33 PM | #25 |
Captain
1351
Rep 898
Posts |
Reads to me as BMW is admitting to hedging their bet on EVs. He says as much multiple times. Perfect example is the stated fear of alienating X5 customers as the reason to avoid only offering an EV in this product category.
Sales defines why a consumer brand exists, not legislation. |
Appreciate
1
JustChris17634.50 |
01-14-2022, 07:01 PM | #26 | ||
Second Lieutenant
219
Rep 262
Posts |
Quote:
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
01-14-2022, 07:21 PM | #28 | |
Second Lieutenant
219
Rep 262
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
3
|
01-14-2022, 07:29 PM | #29 |
Colonel
7599
Rep 2,449
Posts
Drives: 9Y0 Cayenne S
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Einbahnstraße
|
BMW is in the zone, they are on a roll. ICE will be here for quite some time.
Automakers are talking big about EVs. Their big financial investments lag behind their rhetoric. Big battery factories coming in the US. When the ground breaks on those projects, it gets a bit more real. |
Appreciate
1
Tch-Nrd129.00 |
01-14-2022, 08:41 PM | #30 |
Colonel
2734
Rep 2,359
Posts |
|
Appreciate
3
|
01-14-2022, 08:46 PM | #31 | |
Colonel
1701
Rep 2,265
Posts |
Quote:
If they do that, EVs become cheaper and cheaper and owners will switch to lower cost fuel, so they will have to keep prices artificially high while sitting on ever-growing reserve of oil until the last ICE owner flips them the finger and jumps into his flying electric car (meaning: it will take a while). OPEC will certainly find new markets in developing countries to dump the excess oil supply. It's a fine balance and they know how to play the game. But OPEC report in 2016 predicted 1% EV adoption by 2040. Bloomberg report puts 2021 at 7.2%. So, oil producers will need to find other customers sooner than thought and I don't think they can extort a continuous stable high price because there is now a viable alternative. |
|
Appreciate
1
Germanauto9803.50 |
01-14-2022, 11:05 PM | #32 |
Brigadier General
7984
Rep 3,479
Posts |
|
Appreciate
4
|
01-14-2022, 11:16 PM | #33 | |
Brigadier General
7984
Rep 3,479
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
4
|
01-15-2022, 12:53 AM | #34 |
Major
1242
Rep 1,269
Posts |
Great interview. Seems plausible the Technology is out there or coming soon that would enable a hybrid combustion engine to get 50, 60, 70 (or more) mpg. The HP and forward thrust desired by us M performance guys would be achieved with the additional e components.
Imagine this scenario. A major hurricane hits the southern US. Millions of people are told to evacuate North. Traffic jams and gridlock ensue. The heat is sweltering. Batteries are going dead. Kids and babies are on board. Air-conditioning, GPS, radios, windshield wipers, etc take power. How do you get electricity to all those cars that have run out of e power sitting on the road . Having a small super efficient combustion engine as part of the drive system makes sense. I think we have a long way to go before we totally say goodbye to ICE engines. |
Appreciate
2
Tch-Nrd129.00 StradaRedlands5947.50 |
01-15-2022, 03:28 AM | #35 |
Forced Induction Connoisseur
1105
Rep 860
Posts
Drives: 23 X5MC / 23 720s
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: AZ
iTrader: (0)
Garage List 2024 G87 M2 [0.00]
2023 Mclaren 720s [0.00] 2005 Honda S2000 [0.00] 2023 BMW X5MC [0.00] 1964 Ford Mustang [0.00] 1968 Pontiac GTO [0.00] |
Is there any possibility that Koenigsegg will start to license their Freevalve technology and it will make its way into these future extremely efficient engines? We've seen what they can do in the Gemera and I anxiously await the day I might be able to get something like that on one of BMWs V8s or I6 power plants.
__________________
Oy vey, look at all these shekels
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-15-2022, 04:33 AM | #36 |
New Member
4
Rep 7
Posts |
Was thinking my F90 was going to be a car to hold on to as the "Last of the V8s" ….but looks not to be the case
__________________
Retired
2022 M440i 2017 911 991.2 4S 2017 Cayenne GTS 2014 Audi A8 TDI 2010 Audi S4 2008 Range Rover HSE |
Appreciate
0
|
01-15-2022, 08:30 AM | #37 | |
Brigadier General
2191
Rep 4,123
Posts |
Quote:
There is a world outside of the US, not sure if you know? Last time things like that happen the Tesla driver's got more battery range over the air update! Try things like that with a gasoline engine. The US needs to adopt and going with the time. |
|
Appreciate
3
|
01-15-2022, 09:54 AM | #38 | |
Colonel
2414
Rep 2,392
Posts
Drives: G87 M2; E92M3 MT&DCT; M3 euro
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: nyc
|
Quote:
Cars are more than means of commutes to some people, to them engines are the beating hearts of machines, a cold yet hot beauty. Premium manufacturers not only need to sell the performance but also their emotional values! For that, I feel the hydrogen cars are the future especially in the premium market.
__________________
Pass me if you can.
|
|
Appreciate
4
|
01-15-2022, 12:02 PM | #39 |
Colonel
7599
Rep 2,449
Posts
Drives: 9Y0 Cayenne S
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Einbahnstraße
|
30% of global new vehicle builds in 2030 is expected to be EV, for a total of 30m vehicles. Percentage EV varies by country, with the US being lower than average and European countries higher than average.
That means 70% of new vehicle build in 2030 will have an ICE - whether hybrid or full ICE. ICE isn't going away anytime soon. |
Appreciate
0
|
01-15-2022, 01:01 PM | #41 | |
Colonel
1701
Rep 2,265
Posts |
Quote:
So, unfortunately, I think it will be pretty much non-existent except for very niche cars as for every manual car, you'll need to sell so many "more efficient" cars to get your fleet average down to the compliance standards. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-15-2022, 01:05 PM | #42 |
Banned
1296
Rep 1,675
Posts |
This is such an absurd post. I dont think you understand how life works SMFH
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-15-2022, 02:14 PM | #43 | |
Brigadier General
2191
Rep 4,123
Posts |
Quote:
Tell me how old you are? |
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|