F1 2023: US GP - Austin (Oct 22)

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

I don't think Sainz and Russell were measured. Only 4 cars were. P1-P3 and someone else.

The someone else was : Charlie (LEC) and he is DSQ .

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M3WC

Supposedly Russell and Sainz both ran a different setup than their teammates. Which included having a higher rear ride height. Not for fear of being DQ'd, they just felt more comfortable with those setups. My guess is Hami would have been back closer to Russ, had he been running similar ride height.

I heard that LEW ran with the new upgraded 2024 test-floor , and RUS ran with the old floor.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

I don't understand this argument. The ONLY reason he had a good race was because his car was illegal. If he had been legal he would have been back where Rus was.

I couldn't agree more !

[///M Power-Belgium]

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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It doesn't appear this was mere millimeters, that looks full on like MB & Ferrari were an inch or two lower. I imagine that delta between Max's height and the illegal height was quite a bit of performance to say the least.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

It doesn't appear this was mere millimeters, that looks full on like MB was an inch or two lower. I imagine that delta between Max's height and the illegal height was quite a bit of performance to say the least.

That's a Photoshop joke: the planks and their wear are identical.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Artemis

That's a Photoshop joke: the planks and their wear are identical.

I was referring to the pics of the cars on track not the planks themselves. I don't think that was photoshopped and you can clearly see how much daylight there is on the RB and the others are smashed to the tarman.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

I was referring to the pics of the cars on track not the planks themselves. I don't think that was photoshopped and you can clearly see how much daylight there is on the RB and the others are smashed to the tarman.

OK, then I stand corrected (thought that you were referring to the surfing Photoshop).

The track pictures: looks legit - but to be fair, they should also show a picture of a Red Bull equally passing full on over those kerbs.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Artemis

OK, then I stand corrected (thought that you were referring to the surfing Photoshop).

The track pictures: looks legit - but to be fair, they should also show a picture of a Red Bull equally passing full on over those kerbs.

I think it's close enough (almost all on same spot of curbing) that you can see just how much lower the MB/Ferrari were.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Artemis

OK, then I stand corrected (thought that you were referring to the surfing Photoshop).

The track pictures: looks legit - but to be fair, they should also show a picture of a Red Bull equally passing full on over those kerbs.

Track pictures are unaltered. My comparison data runs suggested HAM running a 4 - 8 kph corner speed advantage over MAX and NOR on average, planned on preparing a graph comparison to post but no time to complete.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Artemis

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Spot on my friend !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Artemis

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I don't think they'll be ''surfing' USA'' with that dropped suspension again

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Track pictures are unaltered. My comparison data runs suggested HAM running a 4 - 8 kph corner speed advantage over MAX and NOR on average, planned on preparing a graph comparison to post but no time to complete.

Sure , But with this RB19 setup/package it was just normal ...'

As we know the RB19 had to run with a higher suspension setup to avoid floor-plank damamage at the bumpy COTA track .
So , the RB19 setup/package was according to the FIA floor regulations , that's why the RB19 wasn't/Isn't DQF.
But......'

By the RB19's higher suspension setup , it was required to run with a huge rear wing to get the nessesary downforce .
And that made the RB19 slower than LEW's W14 with the cheating 2024 test-floor who was sitting extremely (too)!low .
On top of that and as know , MAX brakes (brake pads) really s@cked throughout the whole race and that cooked his tyres too !

As I said : It's a small miracle that MAX managed to bring it home and even win this race .
Let us not forget that MAX started at P6 with a bad RB19 !
Ohhhh....Man ! What a driver !

#UnLeashTheLion

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I don't think they'll be ''Cheating-surfing' USA'' with that dropped suspension again

FTFY

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

FTFY

You never know with the sly wolf man, Suzie must be so proud of him

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Sure , But with this RB19 setup/package it was just normal ...'

As we know the RB19 had to run with a higher suspension setup to avoid floor-plank damamage at the bumpy COTA track .
So , the RB19 setup/package was according to the FIA floor regulations , that's why the RB19 wasn't/Isn't DQF.
But......'

By the RB19's higher suspension setup , it was required to run with a huge rear wing to get the nessesary downforce .
And that made the RB19 slower than LEW's W14 with the cheating 2024 test-floor who was sitting extremely (too)!low .
On top of that and as know , MAX brakes (brake pads) really s@cked throughout the whole race and that cooked his tyres too !

As I said : It's a small miracle that MAX managed to bring it home and even win this race .
Let us not forget that MAX started at P6 with a bad RB19 !
Ohhhh....Man ! What a driver !

#UnLeashTheLion

It's actually a blessing for Merc that LEW didn't win the race as Wolff would have erupted like a volcano

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

I was referring to the pics of the cars on track not the planks themselves. I don't think that was photoshopped and you can clearly see how much daylight there is on the RB and the others are smashed to the tarman.

Daylight ?

Under LEW's car it was night...'

LEW : I'm the only driver who can fight with MAX !

LMFAO

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

It's actually a blessing for Merc that LEW didn't win the race as Wolff would have erupted like a volcano

Just wait for it at Mexico my friend , and when Red Bull drops the RB19 again to a normal/lower height level

LEW : I saw a lot of interesting things when I ran very close behind MAX ..

Right LEW , You've seen your own DSQ behind MAX !
Wolff : We'll take that on our chin !

Ohh....Boy !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Just wait for it at Mexico my friend , and when Red Bull drops the RB19 again to a normal/lower height level

LEW : I saw a lot of interesting things when I ran very close behind MAX ..

Right LEW , You've seen your own DSQ behind MAX !
Wolff : We'll take that on our chin !

Ohh....Boy !

..''and shoot ourselves in the other foot, we are Mercedes and we are NEEVER late and very competitive''

[M5Rick]

Some say that the boos at Austin were directed at the Texas governor but whatever, Kelly was unimpressed and Max said whether the boos were directed at him or someone else did not bother him at all.
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...and-prix-boos/

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

..''and shoot ourselves in the other foot, we are Mercedes and we are NEEVER late and very competitive''

Too Funny ...'