The official "Ask a cop/deputy anything!" thread

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Were you high, or low? That could be all the difference in the world, no?



p.s. CONGRATS!

Sometimes high and sometimes low. No, it didn't really matter because the main charge, 23152(a) CVC still applied. It was the 23152(b) CVC charge (…greater than the admin per se .08 limit) that was sometimes affected…..e.g. .07 vs. .09. There were times I estimated high - .14 vs the real BAC .12 - but it didn't matter because either way, both sections applied.

[NorCalAthlete]

I remember a Mythbusters test for drunk vs distracted driving where they smeared peanut butter on the steering wheel and all kinds of other craziness to compare it to drunk driving...don't remember the outcome though.

Wouldn't mind being a test dummy for a wet lab in the bay area sometime. I've participated in mock jury selection classes and stuff for some friends in law school, stuff like that is kinda entertaining to me. See how much of a monkey wrench I can throw into their training, either overtly or subtly.

One of the jury classes I just started a monologue and meandered all over the place after a simple question, didn't let a student get a word in, started asking other jurors questions...professor eventually stopped me but was like "perfect example of how someone may not be aggressive, obnoxious, etc but can still get out of control and demonstrate why you need to be curt, concise, and in control at all times."

If I remember correctly for that one, the student had like 5 minutes to question 30 of us and I was the only one she got a chance to ask anything of.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by NorCalAthlete

I remember a Mythbusters test for drunk vs distracted driving where they smeared peanut butter on the steering wheel and all kinds of other craziness to compare it to drunk driving...don't remember the outcome though.

Wouldn't mind being a test dummy for a wet lab in the bay area sometime. I've participated in mock jury selection classes and stuff for some friends in law school, stuff like that is kinda entertaining to me. See how much of a monkey wrench I can throw into their training, either overtly or subtly.

One of the jury classes I just started a monologue and meandered all over the place after a simple question, didn't let a student get a word in, started asking other jurors questions...professor eventually stopped me but was like "perfect example of how someone may not be aggressive, obnoxious, etc but can still get out of control and demonstrate why you need to be curt, concise, and in control at all times."

If I remember correctly for that one, the student had like 5 minutes to question 30 of us and I was the only one she got a chance to ask anything of.

A wet lab will tell you A LOT about how your real tolerance and ability differs from your perceived tolerance and ability.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

A wet lab will tell you A LOT about how your real tolerance and ability differs from your perceived tolerance and ability.

This was a positive outcome I fully expected when I volunteered.

"What do you mean, .14??? I'm not even buzzin yet"

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

A wet lab will tell you A LOT about how your real tolerance and ability differs from your perceived tolerance and ability.

How specifically? What are the tests that the subject does? Like, I don't care about you soulfully staring into my eyes trying to see the dilation of my pupils...I want to know what I do that will prove to myself that my actual tolerance is different from my perceived tolerance!

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

How specifically? What are the tests that the subject does? Like, I don't care about you soulfully staring into my eyes trying to see the dilation of my pupils...I want to know what I do that will prove to myself that my actual tolerance is different from my perceived tolerance!

He stares longingly into your eye while you blow . . . and then they tell you what you just blew.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

How specifically? What are the tests that the subject does? Like, I don't care about you soulfully staring into my eyes trying to see the dilation of my pupils...I want to know what I do that will prove to myself that my actual tolerance is different from my perceived tolerance!

For example….


….if you can barely find your nose during the Finger to Nose test or can't walk a straight line during the Walk & Turn test…….two things you could easily do right now, assuming you're currently sober, it says a lot. If you can barely find your nose, how are you in a suitable condition to process everything it takes to operate a motor vehicle with the safety, care and concern of a sober person?!?

Nystagmus is a sign of significant neurological impairment, and with that alone I can predict impairment within .02% BAC.

[Sedan_Clan]

Back on the 4th of July, I performed the psychophysical SFST tests on inebriated persons at the pool. They were shocked by their level of impairment.

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

For example….


….if you can barely find your nose during the Finger to Nose test or can't walk a straight line during the Walk & Turn test…….two things you could easily do right now, assuming you're currently sober, it says a lot. If you can barely find your nose, how are you in a suitable condition to process everything it takes to operate a motor vehicle with the safety, care and concern of a sober person?!?

Nystagmus is a sign of significant neurological impairment, and with that alone I can predict impairment within .02% BAC.

Thought no drunkard before driving.

[Sedan_Clan]

My boy looks so official (…second from the left). I'll miss him in the tan and green, but Oxnard is a better situation for him. I'll tell him to look out for you UncleWede.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Back on the 4th of July, I performed the psychophysical SFST tests on inebriated persons at the pool. They were shocked by their level of impairment.

Just how impaired was she?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Murf993

Just how impaired was she?

Well the sand that invited me to the beach wasn't, but all of the others were. There were a couple of lookers.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

My boy looks so official (…second from the left). I'll miss him in the tan and green, but Oxnard is a better situation for him. I'll tell him to look out for you UncleWede.

Shit, PHPD has several laterals open. I could have set up his email on his phone

[NorCalAthlete]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Shit, PHPD has several laterals open. I could have set up his email on his phone

I've got a buddy retiring out of SJPD (or trying to, at least...they're begging him to stay longer due to being woefully understaffed) who wants to move to Oxnard to retire / be with family. Depending on when this little drinks get together is maybe I'll see if I can bring him down and make the intros.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by NorCalAthlete

I've got a buddy retiring out of SJPD (or trying to, at least...they're begging him to stay longer due to being woefully understaffed) who wants to move to Oxnard to retire / be with family. Depending on when this little drinks get together is maybe I'll see if I can bring him down and make the intros.

I'm not a hiring agent or anything. Neogov dot com, port Hueneme

[Sedan_Clan]

It's official (…pending field certification)!!!!!

[Joekerr]

^
Congrats!!!!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

^
Congrats!!!!

My brain wants to explode, but at least I'm off until Thursday (…well Wednesday is a range training day, but shooting guns all day isn't work…..so I don't count that ).

[BMWGUYinCO]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

My boy looks so official (…second from the left). I'll miss him in the tan and green, but Oxnard is a better situation for him. I'll tell him to look out for you UncleWede.

I think I found video of the graduation :
(PS: I do NOT mean this as offensive to our men and women in blue, whom I admire and am deeply appreciative of their service. Hopefully this will not be taken to offend in any way!)

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by BMWGUYinCO

I think I found video of the graduation :

Ahhhh the good ol' days……



….referring to "In Living Color", not police brutality.

[BMWGUYinCO]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Ahhhh the good ol' days.

Thanks for taking this humorously as intended - this is one of my favorite threads and you sir, are amazing. How you remain cool and objective, both on the street and in this thread, is remarkable.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by BMWGUYinCO

Thanks for taking this humorously as intended - this is one of my favorite threads and you sir, are amazing. How you remain cool and objective, both on the street and in this thread, is remarkable.

I appreciate that. I really try to learn as I teach/share experiences……and teach/share experiences as I learn from others. I think the biggest disconnect between law enforcement and some segments of the public is a lack of conversation/communication. I think bridging 50% of that gap could be accomplished simply by opening a forum and both sides being willing to listen. I blame the media for a lot of the influence though. Their intention(s) aren't usually for the sake of the greater good.