F1 2023: Japanese GP - Suzuka (Sep 24)

[G30M]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Unfortunately Lance's sell by date is coming up fast, that crash he had was 50g and Max's '21 Silverstone one was 51g so it must have shook LS up bad.

how can one survive a 50G and a 51G crash? interesting ...

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by g21

how can one survive a 50G and a 51G crash? interesting ...

By having all kinds of impact protection devices.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by g21

how can one survive a 50G and a 51G crash? interesting ...

Physical survival: fit body, neck muscle training, structural strength of the cockpit, halo, a closed helmet and luck improve chances of survival.

Psychological survival - getting to terms: Verstappen is demonstrating over the past two years with strong determination that he never forgot getting Silverstoned at 180mph in 2021 for the price of a 10-second penalty.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by g21

how can one survive a 50G and a 51G crash? interesting ...

MAX's seat was broken in 2 pieces . MAX lost consciousness for +/- 10 sec.
He got a concussion and had to vomit for 3 days ..
Thank you LEW !

The crash from Grosjean was 67-69 G !

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Physical survival: fit body, neck muscle training, structural strength of the cockpit, halo, a closed helmet and luck improve chances of survival.

Psychological survival - getting to terms: Verstappen is demonstrating over the past two years with strong determination that he never forgot getting Silverstoned at 180mph in 2021 for the price of a 10-second penalty.

Yeah . For the price of a 10-second penalty !
And LEW's car was repaired under the RED flag ,of his own deliberately caused crash and to take the victory !
It was a true shame for motorsports !

Great post (as usual)! , great pics . Thanks for sharing my friend

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX's seat was broken in 2 pieces . MAX lost consciousness for +/- 10 sec.
He got a concussion and had to vomit for 3 days ..
Thank you LEW !

The crash from Grosjean was 67-69 G !

It also really depends on the angle of the crash.
Stroll's crash was mainly a front impact, whereas Max' impact was from the side.
Because the drivers virtually are lying in their cars, a front impact is mainly downwards for the body, and in that direction the body is much stronger than with sideways forces. All your internal organs are pretty much hanging inside your body (on internal membranes), so downwards it's pretty strong.

And there's of course how long the body is exposed to high G's.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah . For the price of a 10-second penalty !

I think for penalties like causing a collision, something like the stop and go penalty should be reïntroduced.
Of course that doesn't help the other person in the crash, but it should make drivers think twice when going for the gap that isn't there.

[Killed by Death]

Couldn't find the in car slow motion but LS's head got whipped forward pretty good. Would have been big trouble without the Hans device.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX's seat was broken in 2 pieces . MAX lost consciousness for +/- 10 sec.
He got a concussion and had to vomit for 3 days ..
Thank you LEW !

The crash from Grosjean was 67-69 G !

This is why I said before that I will probably never go to Silverstone again for the meaningless penalty on HAM.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

I think for penalties like causing a collision, something like the stop and go penalty should be reïntroduced.
Of course that doesn't help the other person in the crash, but it should make drivers think twice when going for the gap that isn't there.

Currently the system of 12 license points exists.

As Silverstone 2021 demonstrated, a driver and his team can remedy a time penalty, repair a car and still win the race (helped by team orders for the team mate: "Team order: do not fight with Lewis" + "OK Valtteri, we invert the cars in turn 15 this lap") and leave the circuit with race win points pocketed, closing after 10 races the widening WDC and WCC points gap with the main rival team and main rival driver (who had won the three previous races as well as the first 'Sprint' event held the day before the race and who had qualified for pole position). Precious WDC/WCC points won (and precious points lost for the DNF'd driver and his team).

It could be way more effective if FIA would penalize collision offenders with track position penalties for the final classification of the race (inevitably causing the loss of WDC/WCC points penalties if the driver finished within the top 10). Teams and drivers are less worried about a time penalty than about losing WDC and WCC points.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

This is why I said before that I will probably never go to Silverstone again for the meaningless penalty on HAM.

Don't punish yourself for something out of your control. Go, Enjoy!!!

[G30M]

all i wanna know is, how is Danny Ric's hand

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Don't punish yourself for something out of your control. Go, Enjoy!!!

I do...at Brands just a short drive away ! Why go the siverstone anyway the F1 GP should be at Brands which is far more picturesque.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by g21

all i wanna know is, how is Danny Ric's hand

I reckon Ricciardo will be out another three GP's at least.

[dfox]

Horner hinted at a return for Ricciardo in Austin.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by g21

all i wanna know is, how is Danny Ric's hand

In one word : 'Bad

The rehabilitation takes longer than expected , It wasn't a clean fracture and it was complicated .

#RicTheIronHand !

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Couldn't find the in car slow motion but LS's head got whipped forward pretty good. Would have been big trouble without the Hans device.

You can play all the YouTube video's in slow motion

1- Click on settings (the wheel)
2- Select playback speed
3- Select 0.25 speed = slow motion

[G30M]

I read Alpine is in talks with Mick, possibly replacing Logan in 2024

Not sure if I'm reading fresh news old news or fake news

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by g21

I read Alpine is in talks with Mick, possibly replacing Logan in 2024

Not sure if I'm reading fresh news old news or fake news

I guess you mean Williams ?

"'We want him in the car next year' – Vowles says Williams want Sargeant 'to succeed' at the team"
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...cPftJ1HUa.html

Rookie Liam Lawson is demonstrating that he deserves a seat in F1 as 'driver' instead of 'reserve driver'. Mick Schumacher had a chance at Haas to prove what he got, but, regardless of the car, didn't leave a lasting impression. Don't know how much money Lawson and Schumacher can bring to the table (sponsoring) - driver's choice should be based on talent, but in the very expensive real world of F1 that ain't usually the case.

[Killed by Death]

They can go suck an egg

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

They can go suck an egg

That's right my friend . I couldn't agree more ..

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

That's right my friend . I couldn't agree more ..

Worth putting this on showing in-house fighting between struggling RUS and HAM and the famous ''they are copying my DRS trick'' from SAI which wouldn't work for RUS as his tires were too shot anyway.
Following Norris's moves too closely RUS blew it clouting a barrier too much on the last lap and crashing out he was livid then must have been calmed down by Wolff before saying it was just hard racing in the end.