F1 2021: Monaco GP - Monte Carlo (May 23)

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

You don't like people talking on a forum?
Then dont read.....


Did anyone saw that nice little drift VER made in the last corner before the final straight/finish?
You can say a lot about VER, but you can't say he's a boring driver (of course he has done some crazy drifts before...)

For sure without VER F1 would be extremely boring.

Why evade the question? He does have a point, and I thought only politicians side-stepped questions.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Why wouldnt I read it?
I'm not against certain discussions on this forum, you are....

I believe you don't fully grasp the concept of an internet forum...
Who are you to say whether other people shouldnt discuss something...

Plus, the Azerbaijan thread hasn't started up yet. Right now it's the RB crew giving MB crew shit. Just because MB are the current world champions it doesn't give them the right to stifle posts, comments or conversations.

God help you all if FERRARI ever gets in the mix. I'll be unbearable

[tdott]

Originally Posted by racerbruce

The obvious question....why is the wheel nut metallurgy so soft it can be sheared off by the gun??

Why is everything in F1 only as strong as it needs to be? To save a few a grams.

In this case they got it wrong or something unexpected happened.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Make it 3...BOT is a worthless lapdog. Why piss off HAM with a better replacement until you need to?

All MB wants is a driver good enough to secure constructor championships. Toto doesn't want another "Starwars" on his hands. Once grandma can't accomplish that mission he will be gone. Should HAM leave BOT certainly isn't talented enough to be a #1. RUS stepped in the car for one race and proved that.

My friend , you nailed it !

[e90post_user]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Did Max win the WDC and someone not tell me? How are we crowing this much over one uneventful race? Like a win is a win, but this is overdoing it.

I think this is the closest the race for the world championship has gone in the past couple of years. There is no more a question whether HAM clinches the championship by COTA race or earlier. But everything is possible, I’m excited to see other talented drivers getting allocates besides team MB.

[SenorFunkyPants]

^^^agreed

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Did Max win the WDC and someone not tell me? How are we crowing this much over one uneventful race? Like a win is a win, but this is overdoing it.

Indeed...usually having the best car and winning a race is all..."its the car"!
But when you have the best car and still don't always win then I guess a victory is the cause for extensive celebrations for Verstappen fans.

I'd be happy if Hamilton has to fight for wins all season even if at the end of the year someone else takes the DWC.
As long as its not Verstappen...the arrogant entitled over rated whinny child gets on my last nerve.

I'm hoping McLaren and Ferrari can gain enough pace to fight for wins and the DWC....Lando and Charles both are impressive talents who seem to make the absolute most of their machinery.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Such a BS (up there) !!!
Mercedes has the best car of the decade , with the so said advantages as DAS , Party-Mode ,Magic-Mode, tire cooling , Warp-Speed and the most hp-power of the whole field !
7Hammy won pretty much everything with the Mercedes advantages ..like 7 WCC's !

But that was never the car . It was 7Hammy ..

Now that MAX won 2 races ,suddenly It's the car and not MAX !
Give me a F* break ! LMFAO !!!

I said : It's time for a change ! That's what we now can see in the "drivers ranking" and "constructor standings" !
MAX and Red Bull is leading !!!

[e90post_user]

Fun fact - Mazepin completed more Monaco GP races than Leclerc.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by e90post_user

Fun fact - Mazepin completed more Monaco GP races than Leclerc.

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Such a BS (up there) !!!
Mercedes has the best car of the decade , with the so said advantages as DAS , Party-Mode ,Magic-Mode, tire cooling , Warp-Speed and the most hp-power of the whole field !
7Hammy won pretty much everything with the Mercedes advantages ..like 7 WCC's !

But that was never the car . It was 7Hammy ..

Now that MAX won 2 races ,suddenly It's the car and not MAX !
Give me a F* break ! LMFAO !!!

I said : It's time for a change ! That's what we now can see in the "drivers ranking" and "constructor standings" !
MAX and Red Bull is leading !!!

Do you realize how silly your argument is? How do you define this?

[Killed by Death]

https://www.grandprix247.com/2021/05...or-qualifying/

Having set the provisional pole time on his first run, Leclerc prevented any of his competitors from improving with their second run after crashing on the exit of the swimming pool section, which brought out the red flags and ended qualifying.

While Ferrari were unable to get the Monegasque driver’s car ready for the race, he would have been able to start on pole despite causing the red flag himself.

In IndyCar, any driver that causes a red flag in qualifying loses their fastest lap, and Masi admitted that F1 would consider adopting such a rule.

“Like when everything arises, the FIA, Formula 1 and the teams look at everything and consider it on its merits,” he said. “Yes, I know the IndyCar rule, which is also a rule in a number of other FIA international series and domestic championships around the world.

“We’ll look at it and, together with all of the key stakeholders, determine if it’s suitable or not.”

In the past, drivers have been accused of deliberately causing a stoppage to qualifying in order to protect their provisional pole time, but Masi feels Leclerc’s incident was definitely just a case of driver error.

“Having looked at it, looked at the data and also listening to the team communication, I don’t think any driver would go out there to severely damage their car to that degree, in any circumstance, because of the consequences that may arise out of that,” he added.

[NickyC]

MB out of it? LoL give me a break.

You have arguably the best driver of all time with perhaps the best LUCK of all time driving what just happens to the best car of all time. How does he lose?

I love Max, but you know that RB car of his is going to fail him 2-3 times this year. Those DNFs are going to give away a huge amount of points to Hamilton and his bullet proof, lucky shamrock up his arse car. It’s basically a blue moon when the MB car fails him.

Hamilton is going to win again, I just hope/expect it to be much closer this year.

[AmuroRay]

We'll see the excuses start again next race.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by NickyC

MB out of it? LoL give me a break.

You have arguably the best driver of all time with perhaps the best LUCK of all time driving what just happens to the best car of all time. How does he lose?

I love Max, but you know that RB car of his is going to fail him 2-3 times this year. Those DNFs are going to give away a huge amount of points to Hamilton and his bullet proof, lucky shamrock up his arse car. It’s basically a blue moon when the MB car fails him.

Hamilton is going to win again, I just hope/expect it to be much closer this year.

Yep, HAMs car only had one DNF last year while RUS was driving

[MKSixer]

All of this cheering at a win for a processional race and conflating it to a grande triumph in the WDC chase is a bit silly. We still have 17 races to go and in this formula, HAMs credentials as a master of tire management, race pace, qualifying, following in the wake of other drivers, and knowing when to apply, HAMMERTIME will be deciding factors in winning both the WDC and the WCC.

As I've said many times, Sir Lewis has evolved into a deadly Senna-Prost combination who absolutely slays on the track no matter the circumstances 95% of the time. This combined with the might of the works Mercedes team is a juggernaut that may hiccup from time to time but is, nevertheless, unstoppable.

This is a LONG season and Max has never had a championship challenge, let alone, one that goes to the wire. Sir Lewis has been in 12 and has won 7. He lost a further 2 by less than 6 points in aggregate and yet another through horrible McLaren reliability.

He has come back from behind to win 3 of his championships...2 vs Ferrari and 1 vs his team mate.

His history and credentials are unassailable.

Sit back, relax, and let it unfold.

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Yep, HAMs car only had one DNF last year while RUS was driving

Which race was that?

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Which race was that?

2020 Sakhir Grand Prix. I seem to remember HAM had to skip the race due to Covid-19?

HAM's car took a shit while RUS was leading the race in it.

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

2020 Sakhir Grand Prix. I seem to remember HAM had to skip the race due to Covid-19?

HAM's car took a shit while RUS was leading the race in it.

It was definitely a 5chit show but the car did finish.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

All of this cheering at a win for a processional race and conflating it to a grande triumph in the WDC chase is a bit silly. We still have 17 races to go and in this formula, HAMs credentials as a master of tire management, race pace, qualifying, following in the wake of other drivers, and knowing when to apply, HAMMERTIME will be deciding factors in winning both the WDC and the WCC.

As I've said many times, Sir Lewis has evolved into a deadly Senna-Prost combination who absolutely slays on the track no matter the circumstances 95% of the time. This combined with the might of the works Mercedes team is a juggernaut that may hiccup from time to time but is, nevertheless, unstoppable.

This is a LONG season and Max has never had a championship challenge, let alone, one that goes to the wire. Sir Lewis has been in 12 and has won 7. He lost a further 2 by less than 6 points in aggregate and yet another through horrible McLaren reliability.

He has come back from behind to win 3 of his championships...2 vs Ferrari and 1 vs his team mate.

His history and credentials are unassailable.

Sit back, relax, and let it unfold.

I kinda agree with a lot of what you said. But, HAM fans have to expect a great deal of gloating when things don't go his way. He has dominated SO long any degree of success against him and MB must be pounced upon. One never knows when the chance will come again.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

It was definitely a 5chit show but the car did finish.

You are correct sir, my poor memory doesn't always serve me correctly.

That and I'm too lazy to fact check sometimes

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

I kinda agree with a lot of what you said. But, HAM fans have to expect a great deal of gloating when things don't go his way. He has dominated SO long any degree of success against him and MB must be pounced upon. One never knows when the chance will come again.

To a point, I agree with you also. But the childishness lies in that when Hamilton wins, it is because he used a number of nefarious methods to achieve that. But when Max wins, it is because he has more expertise. Give us a break! By that reasoning, Usain Bolt is cheating his a$$ off, and yet all the officials he's come across have not caught him, but many television viewers have. By it's merits it is a weak argument.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by rwheels

To a point, I agree with you also. But the childishness lies in that when Hamilton wins, it is because he used a number of nefarious methods to achieve that. But when Max wins, it is because he has more expertise. Give us a break! By that reasoning, Usain Bolt is cheating his a$$ off, and yet all the officials he's come across have not caught him, but many television viewers have. By it's merits it is a weak argument.

As a Ferrari fan I kinda see both sides making the same arguments. Grant it VER fans are much more aggressive.

MB fans = It's HAM
RB fans = It's VER

Who's the better driver? I don't know. The difference in age and unequal equipment makes it impossible for me to decide.