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      05-28-2024, 12:57 PM   #331
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Monaco is fine.

The weekend is more about quali than it is the race. Quali is a blast to watch.

This years race was particularly boring because of the first-lap tire swaps... perhaps they could mandate 2 pit stops or something? Just spice it up so there's more strategy at play during the race since we all know there's no passing.

Also not against getting rid of the Nouvalle chicane for F1 to create passing opportunities.
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Monaco is fine.

The weekend is more about quali than it is the race. Quali is a blast to watch.

This years race was particularly boring because of the first-lap tire swaps... perhaps they could mandate 2 pit stops or something? Just spice it up so there's more strategy at play during the race since we all know there's no passing.

Also not against getting rid of the Nouvalle chicane for F1 to create passing opportunities.
Agreed, get rid of Nouvalle chicane. Don't know if it would be possible to reconfigure turn 12 a touch to help passing? Plus only use the softs, no two compound requirement.
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What a whiner Hamilton is.
He always was, perhaps expect his first year when he was measuring up to Alonso. The whining, among other things, is something I cannot stand about Hamilton. We'd never be friends. (We're not in the same circles to begin with.)

Oh, the tifosi will be very tamed compared to the Italian press. He's in for a whooping.

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2. Remove the chicane coming out of the tunnel to create a longer straight and DRS zone.
Andrew Benson mentioned rumours of instead of going under the overpass and turning right into the tunnel, turn left and go around the carpark entry. It would add mere metres, but at this point any help is worth trying.

At the end of the tunnel, where Blvd Louis II ends and Ave Kennedy and Quai des États-Unis begin, if the Principality wants, they could remove a tree or two to extend a DRS zone to the Route de la Piscine. Perhaps even putting a massive braking zone there.

But I reckon it's easier to move the Everest.
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So it's Niki Lauda who holds the all time double POLE and win record for Monaco, what an amazing driver he was. It was the time when Brits were winning the F1 and the 500cc m/cycle World championship at the same time with James Hunt and Barry Sheene.
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Didn't see the race live.

Well-deserved race win for Leclerc. Flawless race weekend. Great job.

Belgian F1 journalist Gaëtan Vigneron told Jacky Ickx during the race the anecdote that Leclerc was asked as a kid what he later wanted to be. Leclerc surprisingly replied: "Kind." During the MC race weekend, Vigneron asked Leclerc if he wasn't sometimes a bit too kind for competitors. Leclerc reassured the journalist that, as soon as he closes his visor, he goes into combat mode.

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Is it the beginning of the end for Monaco.

''I'm not in favour of a race that's decided in qualifying''
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The racing at Monaco has been miserable for many years. Yet for some reason even knowing it’s going to be a boring race I still look forward to the weekend.

Yes the race will be a procession but there is still something special about the place. The cars do still look amazing running through the streets.
Look forward to see all the scattered ass walking around. Way more interesting than the race. I’d rather watch all the 20 something smoke shows hoping out of Bugattis/Lambos/Ferraris heading out the night before. Sounds like Max and George would agree with me. Another snooze fest. Their words not mine
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Throw 'em all back in to carts for a race. It'd be like a circus, but would actually be fun to watch.
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Is it the beginning of the end for Monaco.
Step away from the Bong!
Monaco GP is Formula One history and not even the 2026 cars will stop that.

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Step away from the Bong!
Monaco GP is history and not even the 2026 cars will stop that.
Well...I heard the prince had this year $100Million too much left over , just to get the race

White washed or not ...Money talks mate !
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Is it the beginning of the end for Monaco.

''I'm not in favour of a race that's decided in qualifying''
When Drivers can slow down 10 seconds from the normal lap and can expect that they won't get overtaken, as they can in Monaco, that tells you that glamour and social appeal, and not racing, is what keeps it on the calendar.

I'm all for a track like Magny Cours to replace Monaco as it deserves a spot on the racing calendar over a social event.
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When Drivers can slow down 10 seconds from the normal lap and can expect that they won't get overtaken, as they can in Monaco, that tells you that it's glamour and social appeal, and not racing, is what keeps it on the calendar.

I'm all for a track like Magny Cours to replace Monaco as it deserves a spot on the racing calendar over a social event.
The Monaco GP is high speed traffic jam .
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Stewart-Haas to cease operations at season’s end
In a joint statement issued Tuesday, Tony Stewart and Gene Haas confirmed that Stewart-Haas Racing will cease NASCAR operations at season’s end.
“But the commitment needed to extract maximum performance while providing sustainability is incredibly demanding, and we’ve reached a point in our respective and business lives where it’s time to pass the torch.”
Haas, 71, owns the Haas F1 Team. It fields two Formula 1 entries for Nico Hulkenberg and Kevin Magnussen.

https://racer.com/2024/05/28/stewart...t-seasons-end/

Will Haas Formula One be next? Interesting the statement that sustainability was part of the issue. The cost of complying with sustainability has got to be staggering. There must be millions of carbon credits being purchased by Formula One teams.
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FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX CONTRACTS, 2023 DATA
COUNTRY CIRCUIT HOSTING FEE ($) CONTRACT END NOTES
Bahrain Sakhir 52 million 2036 Longest running contract
Saudi Arabia Jeddah 55 million 2030 May move to Qiddiya in future
Australia Albert Park 37 million 2035
Azerbaijan Baku 57 million 2024 Planning on 10-year deal
USA Miami Collaboration 2031, $30+M/year
Italy Imola 21 million 2025
Monaco Monte Carlo 20 million* 2025 *10 million + percentage of tourist tax
Spain Barcelona 25 million 2026
Canada Montreal 32 million 2029
Austria Red Bull Ring 25 million 2023 Extension expected through 2026
Great Britain Silverstone 26 million 2024
Hungary Hungaroring 40 million 2027 Most expensive European race
Belgium Spa 22 million 2023 Set for rotation; probably no extension
Netherlands Zandvoort 32 million 2025 + option for 2 years/rotate with Spa?
Italy Monza 25 million 2024
Singapore Marina Bay 35 million 2028
Japan Suzuka 25 million 2024
Qatar Losail 55 million 2032
USA Austin 30 million 2026
Mexico H. Rodriguez 30 million 2025
Brazil Interlagos 25 million 2025
Las Vegas Las Vegas Collaboration 2025 Talked about extending through 2032
***could not find contract, https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...re-doubt-2024/
Abu Dhabi Yas Marina 42 million 2030
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Stewart-Haas to cease operations at season’s end
In a joint statement issued Tuesday, Tony Stewart and Gene Haas confirmed that Stewart-Haas Racing will cease NASCAR operations at season’s end.
“But the commitment needed to extract maximum performance while providing sustainability is incredibly demanding, and we’ve reached a point in our respective and business lives where it’s time to pass the torch.”
Haas, 71, owns the Haas F1 Team. It fields two Formula 1 entries for Nico Hulkenberg and Kevin Magnussen.

https://racer.com/2024/05/28/stewart...t-seasons-end/

Will Haas Formula One be next? Interesting the statement that sustainability was part of the issue. The cost of complying with sustainability has got to be staggering. There must be millions of carbon credits being purchased by Formula One teams.
So, I was partially correct, Gene doesn't give a crap about F1 or A$$CAR teams.

SELL to someone who cares

Although Andretti didn't make much of a business case at Indy this year

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When Drivers can slow down 10 seconds from the normal lap and can expect that they won't get overtaken, as they can in Monaco, that tells you that glamour and social appeal, and not racing, is what keeps it on the calendar.

I'm all for a track like Magny Cours to replace Monaco as it deserves a spot on the racing calendar over a social event.
Dominaceli should pucker up and stop talking nonsense about moving F1 away from Europe, a French GP should be back on the cards.
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Dominaceli should pucker up and stop talking nonsense about moving F1 away from Europe, a French GP should be back on the cards.
I'm down with Magny Cours but afraid they would make the French GP another new street course.
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