F1 2019: Brazilian GP - São Paulo (Nov 17)

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Toto and Mattia must be going spare watching how RB do this.
You actually wonder if they spend their massive
F1 allowance on the right things,certainly Ferrari!

[///M Power-Belgium]

The Ferrari collision....Analyzed . Actually it was Sebastian !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The Ferrari collision....Analyzed . Actually it was Sebastian !

Oops so it appears, an annoyed and impetuous Seb inching nearside but if Lec was 100% on the ball he would have flicked 2% to the left and they would both continue.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Oops so it appears, an annoyed and impetuous Seb inching nearside but if Lec was 100% on the ball he would have flicked 2% to the left and they would both continue.

Interesting...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Interesting...

From what I can see seing that 0.5 sec is a mountain in F1 is that Ham is down mostly and it's a coin throw between Seb and Max with Seb nearly on par with Max in the bends.What's telling is Hams loss of 5km/h on speed trap and down marginally on bends.With the implementation of another fuel flow pressure check system will this be the norm now for Merc. I can't see them just turning the engine down for these races and the high altitude excuse may be wearing a bit thin.

[rcracin]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

From what I can see seing that 0.5 sec is a mountain in F1 is that Ham is down mostly and it's a coin throw between Seb and Max with Seb nearly on par with Max in the bends.What's telling is Hams loss of 5km/h on speed trap and down marginally on bends.With the implementation of another fuel flow pressure check system will this be the norm now for Merc. I can't see them just turning the engine down for these races and the high altitude excuse may be wearing a bit thin.

It could also be that they are conserving the engines to make it to the end without penalty. While watching the race, I was wondering why Bottas was pushing so hard and following so closely when it's terrible for temperatures. Then his motor went. No surprise there.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by rcracin

It could also be that they are conserving the engines to make it to the end without penalty. While watching the race, I was wondering why Bottas was pushing so hard and following so closely when it's terrible for temperatures. Then his motor went. No surprise there.

With Bottas pushing so hard to maximum for that 1 point then lunching the engine I doubt if they are conserving anything and simply Ham has the better engine,seemingly always.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

With Bottas pushing so hard to maximum for that 1 point then lunching the engine I doubt if they are conserving anything and simply Ham has the better engine,seemingly always.

Well...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Well...

Don't invite him to sit in the RB-15 Max

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Don't invite him to sit in the RB-15 Max

Right . I was thinking the big guy has only 3 victories on his back . While MAX has 8 victories .
So.There is some work to do...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Right . I was thinking the big guy has only 3 victories on his back . While MAX has 8 victories .
So.There is some work to do...

Make that 9 on him from Sunday.I see Max as the hot favourite for Yas Marina

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Make that 9 on him from Sunday.I see Max as the hot favourite for Yas Marina

Would be great for MAX and RB to finish the season with another victory
Meanwhile the Merc engine from Bottas returned to the engine factory in Brixworth ..
A grid penalty for Bottas it is very likely....

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Would be great for MAX and RB to finish the season with another victory
Meanwhile the Merc engine from Bottas returned to the engine factory in Brixworth ..
A grid penalty for Bottas it is very likely....

Good ,that's one of them out the way.

[tdott]

There is no reason for the Merc's to even try. Might as well let the slower cars have some fun. 😂

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by tdott

There is no reason for the Merc's to even try. Might as well let the slower cars have some fun. ��

That's a funny excuse because the Merc's became the slower cars .
What we saw in the last 2 races is the result from a fight with equal weapons ! Thanks to FIA .....

And I really hope they dig to the bottom of the cheating pit !

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by tdott

There is no reason for the Merc's to even try. Might as well let the slower cars have some fun. 😂

It has been stated in a couple articles, Merc had moved most of their resources to next season's car after they realized championships where all but locked up after Belgium GP. Their upgrades have been few and far between since the break.

[tdott]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

What we saw in the last 2 races is the result from a fight with equal weapons ! Thanks to FIA .....

You mean like the US gp where Mercs dominated with a 1/2??

It takes more than a strong PU to win a race. Ferrari knows all about that. As you seen to forget, an others point out Mercs haven't had any upgrades since Belgium. They can win without having the strongest PU. They will keep their developments for next year. They have no reason to show their hand until then. So might as well let the slower cars think they've caught up and next year will be the real test of pace.

[Poiseuille]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Brazilian GP : In memoriam Ayrton Senna Da Silva

found this in the Lamborghini factory museum in 2017==>

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by tdott

You mean like the US gp where Mercs dominated with a 1/2??

It takes more than a strong PU to win a race. Ferrari knows all about that. As you seen to forget, an others point out Mercs haven't had any upgrades since Belgium. They can win without having the strongest PU. They will keep their developments for next year. They have no reason to show their hand until then. So might as well let the slower cars think they've caught up and next year will be the real test of pace.

Yeah just like with the engine from Bottas in Brazil ...
Perhaps you think RB HONDA is going in hibernation ?

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah just like with the engine from Bottas in Brazil ...
Perhaps you think RB HONDA is going in hibernation ?

[tdott]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah just like with the engine from Bottas in Brazil ...
Perhaps you think RB HONDA is going in hibernation ?

Atleast his engine made it further without taking engine penalties than the Hondas.

We won't know where all teams stand, but Honda has release their upgraded engines and had more upgrades this year and Merc hasn't had to. As mentioned previously Merc also has more time to spend on developing next years car. So we really won't know where things stand until next year.

[M5Rick]

What's clear at this late stage in the season is a chink has been found in the Mercs and they are fallible.I have stated in a previous post that there is more to their engines than a connecting rod from the compressor to the turbine, the rod passing through the V of the engine to connect them giving a quicker turbo response but not necessarily on the straights.
So how come they have been quicker in the first part..I can't see it through just the split turbo. We've seen the trick wheels to aid cooling the tyres and the mysterious 'hole' in the hub.I think these are just distractions from another performance boost which has been removed now to avoid detection and the suspect is unchecked fuel pressure that they playfully accused another team of.